Mobile phone awareness course

AndyMc.....

TheTalkingDead wrote: »

I Think being on your phone whilst driving to be socially unacceptable although not classed as anti social, pity, a S59 warning cant be issued along with the endorsements, caught on your phone again or do anything else considered anti social then it is impounded.

Stretching it somewhat to use a 59 for using the phone.

Rosemary7391

TheTalkingDead wrote: »

Same can be said for drink driving, but yet there's a course with the added bonus of 25% ban reduction. A course for drink driving doesn't make any world of sense to me either.

I think drink driving is a little more complicated than using a phone... you're either using a phone or you're not. Whereas with alcohol, my understanding (teetotal non-driver...) is that you can have a small drink with dinner and still be under the limit, or might still be over the morning after a heavy night out. That leaves a lot more room for honest mistakes than mobile phone use.

unforeseen

Aylesbury_Duck wrote: »

Plus have the car impounded.

Why stop there? Have the spouse and first-born incarcerated for life. That'll teach 'em.

AndyMc.....

Rosemary7391 wrote: »

I think drink driving is a little more complicated than using a phone... you're either using a phone or you're not. Whereas with alcohol, my understanding (teetotal non-driver...) is that you can have a small drink with dinner and still be under the limit, or might still be over the morning after a heavy night out. That leaves a lot more room for honest mistakes than mobile phone use.

It's a little difficult to have accidentally have a heavy night drinking and accidentally drive early the following morning.

Rosemary7391

AndyMc..... wrote: »

It's a little difficult to have accidentally have a heavy night drinking and accidentally drive early the following morning.

Of course - but you might not realise you were still over the limit? I don't know how long you'd have to wait to be sure. Certainly it isn't an obvious binary.

AndyMc.....

Rosemary7391 wrote: »

Of course - but you might not realise you were still over the limit? I don't know how long you'd have to wait to be sure. Certainly it isn't an obvious binary.

It really isn't that difficult, it's about being responsible.

iammumtoone

TheTalkingDead wrote: »

Same can be said for drink driving, but yet there's a course with the added bonus of 25% ban reduction. A course for drink driving doesn't make any world of sense to me either.

With drink driving people can be caught out just by having one drink thinking they will be ok and still be over the limit, whereas another person having the same drink at the same time would pass the test. They did not consciously mean to drink to over the limit. With using a phone there is no defense.


Personally I think the drink drive limit should be zero so you remove this element of someone being over the limit by accident.

AndyMc.....

iammumtoone wrote: »

With drink driving people can be caught out just by having one drink thinking they will be ok and still be over the limit, whereas another person having the same drink at the same time would pass the test. They did not consciously mean to drink to over the limit. With using a phone there is no defense.


Personally I think the drink drive limit should be zero so you remove this element of someone being over the limit by accident.

Poor judgement maybe but you can't be accidentally over the limit unless you've been spiked.

iammumtoone

AndyMc..... wrote: »

Poor judgement maybe but you can't be accidentally over the limit unless you've been spiked.

True I will never be over the limit as if I am driving I don't have a drink at all. However many do as they can and in most cases are allowed to, like you say its a judgement call for those that do and one they can easily get wrong. Hence why it think there should be zero tolerance makes it easy for everyone to know where they stand.

AndyMc.....

iammumtoone wrote: »

True I will never be over the limit as if I am driving I don't have a drink at all. However many do as they can and in most cases are allowed to, like you say its a judgement call for those that do and one they can easily get wrong. Hence why it think there should be zero tolerance makes it easy for everyone to know where they stand.

If you drink and drive at best it's poor judgement, you don't accidentally drive.