Betterware or Kleeneze!!!

NewbieMoneySaver**

Hello,

You get paid every Monday, that is after you have ordered. So after the first week you will get paid every week.

£19 last week and that was my first week but I only had a day or two to get the books out and back and then order. Should be better this week.

Hope thats ok for you.

OnceBitten

I tried Kleeneze some time ago - never again. My brother did Betterware some time later to raise some cash and he was quite happy with the income to effort ratio.

NewbieMoneySaver**

Cheers for that.

Betterware is seaming like the right choice now rather than Kleeneze.

Thanks again.

:j

LuciferTDark

I have both the Betterware & Kleeneze books dumped on my doorstep every so often & I ignore both, on the other hand the woman doing Avon in our area actually took the time to knock on the door & introduce herself, she's now a good friend & we still buy from her book when we see something we fancy.

Politeness doesn't cost you anything & can even boost your profits.

Peter_Pan

LuciferTDark wrote: »

I have both the Betterware & Kleeneze books dumped on my doorstep every so often & I ignore both, on the other hand the woman doing Avon in our area actually took the time to knock on the door & introduce herself, she's now a good friend & we still buy from her book when we see something we fancy.

Politeness doesn't cost you anything & can even boost your profits.

I agree and with Betterware and Avon where you have your own area it would be a great thing to do as long as you realise that more people will say no thanks than will say yes (some people get disheartened with all the Nos and don't continue), but with Kleeneze because you are competing against agents from same Company its usually necessary to get a lot of books out to find your own customers and knocking is time consuming (Kleeneze is a second income so people have limited time if they are working full time as well). The figures we were told were that about 1 in 20 - 25 households will order so knocking is going to be a lot of No thank yous.

mindmatterandspirit

crazyangel wrote: »

Ive considered both in the past but would be interested to hear from people who have made the kind of money that they say is possible.Ive never seen anyone delivering my betterware or kleeneze book driving a top of the range sports car.

Hi crazyangel,
I have been doing kleeneze for 11 years and started out with all the concerns that everyone else has. It easy to earn a few hundred pounds each month from the catalogues however the larger incomes are developed through building a team of people and helping them to develop their businesses. I have over 600 people in my team and a monthly turnover of £280,000. So the products do sell and you can make high incomes from Kleeneze. If you want to consider it again and need some honest straight forward answers then get in touch. Kleeneze is like any other business, it works as long as the people involved are not afraid to work.

mindmatterandspirit

Peter_Pan wrote: »

I agree and with Betterware and Avon where you have your own area it would be a great thing to do as long as you realise that more people will say no thanks than will say yes (some people get disheartened with all the Nos and don't continue), but with Kleeneze because you are competing against agents from same Company its usually necessary to get a lot of books out to find your own customers and knocking is time consuming (Kleeneze is a second income so people have limited time if they are working full time as well). The figures we were told were that about 1 in 20 - 25 households will order so knocking is going to be a lot of No thank yous.

Hi Peter pan,
the actual figures are:
1 in 10 households will place an order, with the average order being £10. To deliver and collect 100 catalogues and then process the orders takes an average of 3 hours. So if you deliver 100 catalogues you can expect back 10 orders totaling £100. You earn 21% as a minimum which will give you £21 profit on this example. Which works out as £7 per hour. This time of year you will earn much more than that and when you have developed your customer base. IE: You only deliver to those who have ordered in the past, which means you will spend less time doing it and as they are customers they usually order more from you as you have developed trust and rapport. Your earnings will easily reach £15 per hour. If that is not worth working towards then forgive me for this post.

Noname29

where do the averages come from. as far as I was aware the company dont know how many books are put out to achieve the orders. If what you are stating is 'your' average then that is fine but you should be clear about that. I dont thnk it is a 'Company' average.

OnceBitten

Kleeneze people have been claiming an average for a starter as £1 a door for as long as I can remember, no increase to take account of inflation seems to have occurred in these many years. Very, very curious. It wasn't £1 a door when I started it was 65p - no profit in that, not for months anyway. Please also add time for 'bagging up' and chasing straggler catalogues - stick to Betterware.

Peter_Pan

I was told that the £1 per book average order was based on thousands of books being put out over a period of time. The more books you put out the more probability you will hit the £1 a book, we worked with 200 books each week and almost nearly always hit the £1 a book when we started.
We also lost a fair few when we started out, probably averaged about 10 - 15 each drop (after having gone back 3x), our worst loss was 100 books out and we lost 50 (small terraced houses straight onto the street,nice and easy and quick to drop, 3 slips later and we still hadn't got them back!!!) and gained no new customers from the drop anyway.

I think Betterware is the way to go, get the books for free, have your own territory, hand your orders over to area co ordinator and they sort the deliveries and you deliver, pick up the money and keep your share. The Co ordinator does all the ordering and paying to the Company.