Betterware or Kleeneze!!!

Maz

I wasn't saying that people were acting unethically, it was just a suggestion that it might have been a team incentive and maybe a short term initiative. When I did Kleeneze I had orders nicked etc and there was nothing that Kleeneze could do (or were prepared to do?) Don't see who would stop them anyway as long as they were recruiting, don't suppose Kleeneze care really.

mcropper

After reading many of the replies in this thread it is clear that most people don't have a clue about how Kleeneze actually works and doesn't believe you can make money.

Please find out fully about things before criticising them.

For PROOF that you can earn VERY good money with Kleeneze take a look here, http://www.robnray.info/testimonials.html . In particular, Paul Tonkin, who earned over £3000 in 4 weeks from the retailing side along.

Then if you have looked at that website and still aren't convinced then there is no hope for you.

CKS

Noname29

Fair enough Mccropper.
But why promote someone else's site.
Can we see yours ? with your proof of income.

Maz

mcropper wrote: »

After reading many of the replies in this thread it is clear that most people don't have a clue about how Kleeneze actually works and doesn't believe you can make money.

Please find out fully about things before criticising them.

For PROOF that you can earn VERY good money with Kleeneze take a look here, http://www.robnray.info/testimonials.html . In particular, Paul Tonkin, who earned over £3000 in 4 weeks from the retailing side along.

Then if you have looked at that website and still aren't convinced then there is no hope for you.

CKS

Interesting to note that many of the testimonials are 2+ years old. Maybe things are very different now, I dunno.............

NewbieMoneySaver**

I very much doubt it. You still hear all te bad rumors about it. The only reason these people are earning so much is because they have 1 billion people working under them doing the really hard work and they are taking a cut.

You would need to keep with it fo a while and hope that you get good customers.

Not for me thanks

brian09tt

Maz wrote: »

Interesting to note that many of the testimonials are 2+ years old. Maybe things are very different now, I dunno.............

You hit the nail on the head there, two years ago Kleeneze peaked and it's been downhill ever since and quite quickly may I add.

I was in Dec 04 to Jan 08 and it was becoming more and more difficult to make it work. Some agents blame the move to Accrington but it started going downhill before then I' afraid.

I was In Rob Forsters group and so got to meet Paul Tonkin, he managed to earn them incomes for 3 months and then eased up big time, he was dropping over 4000 catalogues a month and worked 12 hours a day+ spent over £1000 on petrol, the same on catalogues:eek: and has never even got close to them levels ever since. He does get dusted off and used as a good story over and over again at Rob's Seminars.Good luck if you want to kill yourself trying that.

Brian

brian09tt

mcropper wrote: »

After reading many of the replies in this thread it is clear that most people don't have a clue about how Kleeneze actually works and doesn't believe you can make money.

Please find out fully about things before criticising them.

For PROOF that you can earn VERY good money with Kleeneze take a look here, http://www.robnray.info/testimonials.html . In particular, Paul Tonkin, who earned over £3000 in 4 weeks from the retailing side along.

Then if you have looked at that website and still aren't convinced then there is no hope for you.

CKS

most of the peoples incomes on them testimonials have dropped, as has Rob's turnover by about 1/3 !!

brian09tt

Noname29 wrote: »

Fair enough Mccropper.
But why promote someone else's site.
Can we see yours ? with your proof of income.

Don't hold your breath, you will only ever see the successful storys....aka hype

patman99

The main downfall in Kze &b/w sales is directly linked to the up-take in broadband. I do actually like to look through both catalogues as they contain lots of new products, but, if I see something that I would like to order, I check to see if I can buy it cheaper online.
Maybe its time for both kleenezee & betterware to change from 'through the letterbox' selling.

Noname29

patman99 wrote: »

The main downfall in Kze &b/w sales is directly linked to the up-take in broadband. I do actually like to look through both catalogues as they contain lots of new products, but, if I see something that I would like to order, I check to see if I can buy it cheaper online.
Maybe its time for both kleenezee & betterware to change from 'through the letterbox' selling.

If they do, they will lose most if not all their sales in the short term.
The agents would also lose their income.
Now that they are owned by Findel who also own Studio I am sure they will merge the two at some stage.