Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

adindas

goral wrote: »

And? What will be good for average person in UK after brexit?
What opportunity will be have ordinary British citizen after brext?

[FONT=&quot]Now scaremonger does not work. Another scaremonger, talking opportunity.It is not even an opportunity for a country but opportunity of individual circumstance. So, if you yourself do not have opportunity a change is not good ?Keep in mind a country makes a policy for the benefit of the country, not individual.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Any change brings opportunity and threat as well, that is a basic stuff. It is only people who could adapt to a new environment will survive. That is the basis rule of survival if you bother to learn.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]About the opportunity for the UK I have answered your question previously.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]What do you thing the opportunity for the countries who are not in the EU but do trading with the EU. Think about Canada, Korea, Japan ...??[/FONT]

Herzlos

adindas wrote: »

[FONT=&quot]Any change brings opportunity and threat as well, that is a basic stuff. It is only people who could adapt to a new environment will survive. That is the basis rule of survival if you bother to learn.

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[FONT=&quot]Not all change has opportunity, change needs to have some tangible benefit to be worth doing.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If you shoot yourself in the foot, it's definitely a change but the only opportunity is that you can get good at hopping (and might save money on socks).
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What do you thing the opportunity for the countries who are not in the EU but do trading with the EU. Think about Canada, Korea, Japan ...??[/FONT]

What are the economic impacts of any of those deals? As per the handy chart the EU gave us at the beginning, only the Korea one there doesn't violate Mays red lines.
None have any provisions for services either.


I'm fine with most of the above deals, but they don't seem to make the leavers happy.


What sort of deal do you want?

goral

adindas wrote: »

[FONT=&quot]Now scaremonger does not work. Another scaremonger, talking opportunity.It is not even an opportunity for a country but opportunity of individual circumstance. So, if you yourself do not have opportunity a change is not good ?Keep in mind a country makes a policy for the benefit of the country, not individual.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Any change brings opportunity and threat as well, that is a basic stuff. It is only people who could adapt to a new environment will survive. That is the basis rule of survival if you bother to learn.[/FONT]

So, you have no clue!
Just slogans, and slogans. You can't even name one opportunity people will be have after brexit...

[FONT=&quot]About the opportunity for the UK I have answered your question previously.[/FONT]

No, you not!
You just repit slogans, you didn't show any sources of information. Nothing!
Only some slogans straight from the local pub.

[FONT=&quot]What do you thing the opportunity for the countries who are not in the EU but do trading with the EU. Think about Canada, Korea, Japan ...??[/FONT]

And now, Britain can't make any dell with Japan, Canada or any else?
But, Japan make cars in Britain! Is not deal with Japan?
More? Japan is much more likely strike new deal with Britain as part of UE then as third county.
UK as part of UE is market for 512 mln people, just UK is only 62 mln?
Making deal with UK under UE is not only making deal witch UK, is also access to whole UE.
After brexit it will be only UK. So, UK will be like end user. End user is on the very end.

movilogo

Next Friday means nothing. It is just symbolic

Except the term Remainers will cease to exist as we shall be nation of Leavers

Moe_The_Bartender

goral wrote: »

Answer about point system visa is in post number: #7608
Australian point system visa was granted around ~65000 last year, total emigration to Australia was more then 3000000.
So, in total Australian point system visa is around 2% of total immigration.


Link:
https://www.politico.eu/article/australia-immigration-system-migration-brexit-boris-johnson/?utm_source=POLITICO.EU&utm_campaign=97e60f1a4b-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2020_01_28_07_04&utm_medium=email&u%20%20tm_term=0_10959edeb5-97e60f1a4b-190026745

The Australian goverment's official figures show that there were 179,085 migrants granted permanent residency in 2018-2019. There were nearly nine million temporary visas granted to people on holiday, New Zealander’s who have a right of residence (Australia's version of free movement) , aircrew and transit visas, students and a few others.

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/migration-trends-highlights-2018-19.PDF

You seem to think that temporary visitors are permanent migrants. Why don’t you check a few facts before posting nonsense?

Herzlos

goral wrote: »

More? Japan is much more likely strike new deal with Britain as part of UE then as third county.

Japan won't touch a deal with the UK until they know what deal we have with the EU - We're purely a base for access into the EU, so if we don't have good access for Japanese cars they won't have any real interest in us. This is compounded by the FTA agreed between the EU and Japan - they don't really need us.

Thrugelmir

goral wrote: »

So, you have no clue!
Just slogans, and slogans. You can't even name one opportunity people will be have after brexit...

Spain has 14% unemployment currently and increasing levels of poverty. Opportunity is a myth.

gfplux

Great opportunity for those with money to invest.

https://luxtimes.lu/european-union/39672-uk-stocks-now-too-cheap-to-ignore-despite-risks

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So this is it, Brexit is happening. While most trade negotiations are yet to come, the symbolic date marks a decisive turn in the saga that has been a massive drag for U.K. stocks since mid-2016. With the country already setting up a clash with the U.S. over Huawei Technologies Co., and a key Bank of England rate decision Thursday, here’s a look at where U.K. stocks stand in this crucial week.

U.K. shares are “too cheap to ignore,” say Morgan Stanley strategists. “While Europe in aggregate may not look fundamentally cheap, the U.K. does”. According to them, the U.K. remains one of the most undervalued major stock market in the world and a normalization to the 10-year average would mean a 13% re-rating. In term of P/E, the MSCI U.K. is trading at 20% discount to the MSCI World.
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I am sure an opportunity will come along shortly for those on zero hour contracts or those working in the GIG economy.

goral

gfplux wrote: »

Great opportunity for those with money to invest.

For those who have money, Brexit will always be good!
For them it is only opportunity to earn more because the restrictions will disappear.
This is how tax heaven works.
But all the rest will pay for it.

Una_Voidable

Herzlos wrote: »

I wonder if it's you who's in the parallel universe. Walking down any high street here tells the same grim story, food banks on the rise, increase in homelessness.

If the economy is doing so well for everyone, wheres the money?

It might be like that in Scotland where you are but not in most of England or haven't you heard how a record number are in work, house prices are rising ["booming" says the papers] since the election and the country is even officially happier?

I'm sure I read just a little while ago you describe yourself as a "weegie" well that explains your outlook to a tee with Glesgae being the most unhappy place in Scotland say the ONS.