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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

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  • Takedap wrote: »
    There are groups who insist the world is flat. Not too different but just as stupid. If enough people join, does that make them right all of a sudden?


    Bit like Labour saying they won the argument when they lost the GE. Remainers will always think they are right and they won the argument.
  • Can't wait. I'll be popping the champagne next Friday at 11. Trying to find words to explain how happy I've felt since 10 pm December 12th is difficult. It's like having a weight lifted of you. It is, as it says on the tin, about being back in control. The British are now in control of our own destiny.

    I feel like I've won the lottery. Remoaners just go on and on about GDP this and GDP that. It's about none of those things. I don't care if I'm worse off (but I know I won't be) this feeling of freedom is priceless.


    I literally feel happy about Leaving every single moment of the day. It's like a great weight has been taken from my back, it's a massive relief. I feel like my country has been dragged back from leaping over a cliff into a destiny where it has no control over its direction. It's exhilarating.

    Who cares about GDP? It's not my GDP anyways. It belongs to the rich who went on their Waitrose March for "a people's vote."
  • Takedap
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    adindas wrote: »
    Oh nooo How come you give up so easily ?? Keep fighting to reverse brexit ...


    I've made quite a lot of posts on the subject of Brexit but I've never once asked for it to be reversed or for the referendum result to be ignored.


    You seem to be very confrontational about this. Surely you should just be happy?
  • Malthusian
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    Let me explain the Bristish electoral system to you. The TORIES won an 80 seat majority. That means the British people have voted (yet again) to leave the EU.

    Yeah but that was like a month ago. Why do you want to deny democracy by not letting us have another go?
  • Malthusian
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    It is anti-democratic to not let us hold votes over and over and over and over and over again until the people do what we tell them.
  • movilogo
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    So why are you so keen to deny another referendum to let people have their democratic say?

    Once the 1st referendum is honoured, we can have 2nd referndum.

    Without honouring the 1st referendum, we can't have 2nd referendum

    Because:

    [1] If leave wins again, it is back to square one.
    [2] If remain wins, then why that result will be honoured when result of 1st referendum was not honoured?

    By all means I support a 2nd referendum to asking us whether people want to re-join EU.
    Happiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.
  • goral
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    edited 22 January 2020 at 5:53PM
    Feedom to make our own laws
    /quote]

    Yes, and Britain maks they own law already.
    It will be no change
    Freedom to control our own borders

    Yes, and Britain is not part of Shengen and UK hav border control already
    It will be no change
    Freedom to make our own trade deals

    And UK have Fredom to make own trade deals! Whats more! More country are very happy to strike deal with UK, cos UK is part of EU.
    Yes, there will be change.New deal will be worse outside EU.
    Freedom to not pay billions to the EU every year

    Yes, but Britain will pay much more to get any deal, and he won't get anything in return.
    British company will pay more.
    Farmers and fishermen will be not receive any subsidies. So, price will go up, or standards will go down, and British people will enjoying US cheap rubbish food.
    Agriculture and fisheries will collapse.
    Freedom to determine our own destiny

    As is right now!
    All country in EU can decide about they destiny.
    Freedom not to be a protectionist bloc

    But, this is positive! Is good for British people, it bring better opportunists and better live standard.
    Freedom to trade with Africa

    Any country in EU have freedom to trade with Africa, China, Argentina, USA, Japan....
    Freedom not to dump our agricultural goods on Africa

    ?
    Freedom not to belong to a corporatist club

    The biggest corporatist club is in London, and after Brexit it will be even bigger!
    Need I go on?

    Yes, because 99% what you write is already in EU... So it will be no change.
    Some one sell you something you already have.

    ps. Brexit is really a religion!

    ps. You forgot one: After brexit Moon will be made by chase.
  • goral wrote: »
    Feedom to make our own laws
    /quote]

    Yes, and Britain maks they own law already.
    It will be no change



    Yes, and Britain is not part of Shengen and UK hav border control already
    It will be no change



    And UK have Fredom to make own trade deals! Whats more! More country are very happy to strike deal with UK, cos UK is part of EU.
    Yes, there will be change.New deal will be worse outside EU.



    Yes, but Britain will pay much more to get any deal, and he won't get anything in return.
    British company will pay more.
    Farmers and fishermen will be not receive any subsidies. So, price will go up, or standards will go down, and British people will enjoying US cheap rubbish food.
    Agriculture and fisheries will collapse.



    As is right now!
    All country in EU can decide about they destiny.



    But, this is positive! Is good for British people, it bring better opportunists and better live standard.



    Any country in EU have freedom to trade with Africa, China, Argentina, USA, Japan....



    ?



    The biggest corporatist club is in London, and after Brexit it will be even bigger!



    Yes, because 99% what you write is already in EU... So it will be no change.
    Some one sell you something you already have.

    ps. Brexit is really a religion!

    ps. You forgot one: After brexit Moon will be made by chase.

    I thought it was Brexiteers who were supposed to be thick and uneducated.
    The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists.
  • Originally Posted by Herzlos
    I dare say both deserved it - they went to the EU purely for home crowd grand standing and were met by competent politicians.


    Herzlos, an honest question, is there no way you can move back to an EU country? I think maybe in the long run you would be happier.

    Everything in the EU for you seems so much better, so why would you want to stay here?

    Goral - I take it from your posts you are not British - why would you stay either? If you’re not happy here and everything is so much better in Europe why stay?
  • adindas
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    edited 22 January 2020 at 8:41PM
    Takedap wrote: »
    I've made quite a lot of posts on the subject of Brexit but I've never once asked for it to be reversed or for the referendum result to be ignored.
    You seem to be very confrontational about this. Surely you should just be happy?

    Whether you ever asked the referendum be reversed or for the referendum result to be ignored, I do not know about it. But All I know from your previous post you are one of recognisable arch remoaners. You even insisted that the UK need to pay the withdrawal bill, even before the negotiation is completed. Keep in mind the Divorce payment is not in the treaty. If the UK want to pay it is just a gesture of goodwill in exchnage of favourable trade.

    Anyway did you ever argue to your other fellow remoaners that if referendum result to be reversed or for the referendum result to be ignored is wrong and undemocratic ?? If so link please ....

    Oh well I am not happy after all of these arch remoaners have caused such damage to the UK in the Brexit negotiation with the EU these people could just go away by saying indeed I am a loser. Well far then sufficient.

    After all of this mess up have been cleared hopefully there is a movement to take all of these people to be accountable. There should be any public enquiry seeking for possibility of treason charge for these people.
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