Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Tromking

Herzlos wrote: »

Did you read the report?

You mean the report that predicts the UK will be the third fastest growing economy in the G7. Ahead of France, Germany, Italy and Japan? That one?

gfplux

I believe Britain leaving the EU is a mistake. I believe it is a bad move and a poor one for the EU.
Since the June 2016 referendum the uncertainty and EU organisations leaving Britain has not been a positive.
That uncertainty has made Britain step behind the start line for life outside the EU.
Perhaps there are benefits for Britain outside the EU but I am not convinced.
I don’t believe for one minute that any ordinary people have benefitted or will benefit. The ending of free movement for pensioners is one downside that will only stop state pensioners retiring to the sun but will not hinder the rich.
Quitters have not put forward any convincing arguments to me to show clear benefits. It is all hope. Well we will see how that hope and can do will play out.
We certainly live in interesting times.

Herzlos

Tromking wrote: »

You mean the report that predicts the UK will be the third fastest growing economy in the G7. Ahead of France, Germany, Italy and Japan? That one?

I read the one that assumed we'd get a good brexit and still downgraded our growth. That we're not the worst doesn't mean we're doing well.

Also, has anyone seen the Brexit Party MEP complaining we don't get a say in EU fisheries policy anymore?
https://mobile.twitter.com/june_mummery/status/1219267050574618626

goral

Can someone explain me why and how brexit will be good? What will be better after brexit what is not today?

Herzlos

goral wrote: »

Can someone explain me why and how brexit will be good? What will be better after brexit what is not today?

Boris Johnsons etonian buddies will make millions on shorting sterling.

For normal people? No clue.

mayonnaise

goral wrote: »

Can someone explain me why and how brexit will be good? What will be better after brexit what is not today?

Brexit MEP's will cease to be a national affront.

The EU will be able to get on with stuff that really matters like CAP reform, Horizon 2020, climate and energy policy, trade agreements all over the world, regional development...etc....

You’re a glass empty sort of chap aren’t you?

shaggydoo

goral wrote: »

Besides, nobody knows what will happen after Brexit!

So, what was the point in your post #7385 or #7387?

You might as well as saved yourself the effort....and spared the rest of us ???

Spiv_2

gfplux wrote: »

I believe Britain leaving the EU is a mistake. I believe it is a bad move and a poor one for the EU.
Since the June 2016 referendum the uncertainty and EU organisations leaving Britain has not been a positive.
That uncertainty has made Britain step behind the start line for life outside the EU.
Perhaps there are benefits for Britain outside the EU but I am not convinced.
I don’t believe for one minute that any ordinary people have benefitted or will benefit. The ending of free movement for pensioners is one downside that will only stop state pensioners retiring to the sun but will not hinder the rich.
Quitters have not put forward any convincing arguments to me to show clear benefits. It is all hope. Well we will see how that hope and can do will play out.
We certainly live in interesting times.

Seriously. Who cares about any of that? Come next week we will be a free and independent country. Not just a state in the United States of Europe. All power will be in the hands of the British government rather than the hands of the European Federal Government. The laws adopted by the UK parliament will have supremacy. British people will be able to vote for what they want.


Nobody ever asked us until 2016 whether we wanted to be part of the USE. We don't. You need to get used to that.

Malthusian

goral wrote: »

Besides, nobody knows what will happen after Brexit!

What we know, is that there will be tariffs, agricultural will be shrink, less investment in UK, GBP will be go down.

Mony smal business will finish.

Ladies and gentlemen,I give you 3,370 pages of Brexit debate in a nutshell. Nobody knows what will happen but we do know it will be bad. This isn't politics, this is a chronic psychological issue.

goral

Spiv wrote: »

Seriously. Who cares about any of that? Come next week we will be a free and independent country. Not just a state in the United States of Europe. All power will be in the hands of the British government rather than the hands of the European Federal Government. The laws adopted by the UK parliament will have supremacy. British people will be able to vote for what they want.


Nobody ever asked us until 2016 whether we wanted to be part of the USE. We don't. You need to get used to that.

But, UK is free and independent already! So, is brexit sell something you already own/have?

All power is in UK government. But any deal means you give something for something. Same under WTO rules. There are still rules, and UK government must comply with this rules, even UK government does not decide on these principles and does not choose them.

British people voted for EU government! UK along France and Germany was rule maker in EU. So, more of this rules in EU is British made!
And after brexit, if you want make deal within EU zone you still must comply with EU law in all aspects. You still need comply with EU regulations, norms ect. What's more, EU norms are world wide recognise as very high standards. So, if UK will not make deal with EU and wants make deal with rest of te worlds, and not comply with EU norms, then UK will be like second grade partner.

So:
1. British people vote for EU parlament
2. People in UK only elected British government.
3. British make law for Britain, but this law can not be contradictory with EU law in previously agreed issues.
4. UK is rule maker in EU.
5. EU government is only with trade not military.
6. UK have strict border policy in EU. You still need show passport at border. UK is not member of Schengen area.
7. EU trade on WTO rules with many country
8. WTO is organisation, that you mast comply with WTO rules.
9. There is no any election for British people to choice WTO representatives.
10. Under WTO British government will give up some power to WTO rules.

All these points are existing now!

So my question is again: What will be better after brexit?