Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Takedap

Dee_Best wrote: »

It's all made-up though; imaginary.
The statistics don't bear out what you are trying to suggest.
I ask you again (even if it is becoming tedious) : with a near-record number employed and hence so few seeking employment who is supposed to be filling these alleged jobs that have been lost and where are they?

You do realise that working for one hour per fortnight is classed as being employed?

Herzlos

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

Equally you cannot say whether our growth and economy would have been better if we had voted remain.

I think it's pretty safe to say our economy would have roughly followed the same trajectory had we not changed things.

Dee_Best wrote: »

It's all made-up though; imaginary.

Not to the people who lost their jobs, but there's no point continuing that argument.

The statistics don't bear out what you are trying to suggest.

They don't bear out what you are trying to infer either.

I ask you again (even if it is becoming tedious) : with a near-record number employed and hence so few seeking employment who is supposed to be filling these alleged jobs that have been lost and where are they?

Because of how it's being recorded. Anyone with a zero hour contract counts as employed if they've worked at least an hour in the previous 2 weeks.



If we're at such low unemployment, are we artificially restricting our economy by cutting migration?
If the economy is doing great and there's so many jobs available, why is food bank use on the increase?



This is an interesting read that doesn't paint the rosy story you are trying to hard to conjure:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/uk-unemployment-jobs-figures-brexit-turmoil-honda-nissan-a8798856.html

Dee_Best

Takedap wrote: »

You do realise that working for one hour per fortnight is classed as being employed?

You do realise that has been the same for decades in line with the EU's dictat on how statistics are measured?
Also that the number working full-time has risen too?

Dee_Best

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Those that want to work more hours on a permanent basis. Plus those not counted as unemployed, i.e. not claiming benefits.

I agree with the principle of what you suggest but do you honestly believe that there are over 400,000 of them?
Fullfact says 68% of those on zero hours contracts do so because they don't want more hours.
With such a low unemployment level I'm pretty sure that almost anybody wanting more hours could have had them by now it they were serious.

Dee_Best

Herzlos wrote: »

This is an interesting read that doesn't paint the rosy story you are trying to hard to conjure:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/uk-unemployment-jobs-figures-brexit-turmoil-honda-nissan-a8798856.html

It's a typical "no real story" effort which contradicts itself throughout, or didn't you actually bother to read it?

There are answers to your spurious claims but what's the point; you and I will never agree.
Please, you continue your pro-EU "glass half empty" views.
I will continue with mine "glass half full".

phillw

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

You have no idea what the eu would have done if we had voted remain.

More project fear.

No wonder so many people voted to leave after 40 years of project fear, although it seems interesting how nearly half the country did manage to resist it even with such a relentless campaign.

Enterprise_1701C

phillw wrote: »

More project fear.

No wonder so many people voted to leave after 40 years of project fear, although it seems interesting how nearly half the country did manage to resist it even with such a relentless campaign.

I hardly think it is project fear considering how much it has changed since we last had a chance to vote on it.

The previous vote was on whether to remain part of a common market, not a political behemoth.

Fran_Klee

phillw wrote: »

More project fear.

No wonder so many people voted to leave after 40 years of project fear, although it seems interesting how nearly half the country did manage to resist it even with such a relentless campaign.

Oh please.

From senior EU figures finger-wagging and telling us they will make us suffer to threats of war it's pretty obvious who your real project fear has been targeting.

The trouble is then when you keep getting proved so wrong, people wise up.
Then that ignore it.
That'll happen in a "cry wolf" scenario but remainers still try.
It's really quite sad to witness.

fewgroats

Pointless thread to comment on, whether leaver or remainer. Probably more productive for there to be two threads where we can talk to our own side.

buglawton

Herzlos wrote: »

This is an interesting read that doesn't paint the rosy story you are trying to hard to conjure:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/uk-unemployment-jobs-figures-brexit-turmoil-honda-nissan-a8798856.html

Paywalled?