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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder
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Which is mostly the old white british who don't like being seen by a foreign doctor.
And mostly self inflicted through ignorance/arrogance.
Rather than leaving the EU to save the NHS, they should cut down on their beer, fags, cakes & biscuits. But some people feel better blaming foreigners.
That is the current system already.
I do find some of your posts very offensive, I suspect I'm old by your standards and I along with all my friends have no problem being treated by foreign doctors. It's people like you that encourage the far right, by labelling anybody who doesn't agree with you racist. The way to deal with racism is to discuss the problems that people think rightly or wrongly are caused by immigration and not just call them racist and ignore the problems.0 -
What gets me is, all parties say all this. Invest this, spend this and that. But not one party has the guts to say they'll control immigration.
No-one really wants to control immigration because no-one wants to admit that it's actually beneficial to us.I think that is the problem with the NHS. It's not the service, it's the amount of people using it.It should be only used by people who are British citizens. Charge tourists and immigrants using it.People would have more faith in politicians if they generally looked after citizens, rather than making promises of free stuff.
Absolutely. But then if you want politicians to look after people you need to pick ones with a track record of looking after people (such as founding the NHS) and not the ones with a track record of screwing people.0 -
I do find some of your posts very offensive, I suspect I'm old by your standards and I along with all my friends have no problem being treated by foreign doctors. It's people like you that encourage the far right, by labelling anybody who doesn't agree with you racist. The way to deal with racism is to discuss the problems that people think rightly or wrongly are caused by immigration and not just call them racist and ignore the problems.
Common tactic among you lot these days, make it so that criticism of a racist is somehow as bad as the racism itself.Don't blame me, I voted Remain.0 -
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I do find some of your posts very offensive, I suspect I'm old by your standards and I along with all my friends have no problem being treated by foreign doctors. It's people like you that encourage the far right, by labelling anybody who doesn't agree with you racist. The way to deal with racism is to discuss the problems that people think rightly or wrongly are caused by immigration and not just call them racist and ignore the problems.
If someone called me a racist I'd either say no I'm not or let it go over my head.
I doubt I'd suddenly start encouraging the far right. This is like the silliness of people voting brexit because a remainer once looked down their nose at them.0 -
Sailtheworld wrote: »If someone called me a racist I'd either say no I'm not or let it go over my head.
I doubt I'd suddenly start encouraging the far right. This is like the silliness of people voting brexit because a remainer once looked down their nose at them.
It sounds more like a racist justifying being a racist but it's sort of a real phenomenon.
Often, young impressionable males on the wrong parts of the internet hear about political correctness gone mad and that the right wing is the sane place for people. They then go an parrot their racist jokes and get shut down over it - thus proving the PC gone mad nonsense which then drives them to the right.
However, calling someone on racist behaviour usually doesn't drive them further right. Especially when it's usually backed up with something beyond "that's just offensive".0 -
I now see that Corbin has detailed the two questions that would be asked in the referendum.
1) leave the EU with a sensible deal
Or
2) remain
So even the questions will be loaded in favour of Brexit.
Corbyn’s Brexit is awful. It’s staying in without having a say on rule making.
BJ’s Brexit is awful. It’ll lead to uncertainty for years, if not decades.
I’m sure you’ll agree, it’s oh so obvious now, (even if was obvious to many of us before,) the best deal is staying in.0 -
Brexiters have the common sense to know that demonstrations are a pointless exercise and that the only thing that really counts is their vote.
Vote Conservative.
Vote conservative- for a smaller economy, years if not decades of uncertainty (whilst we negotiate FTAs with the whole world), tax cuts for the rich and the trashing of public services (which Tories don’t use).
Vote Lib Dem - for a bigger economy from day one, the extra £50 billion in 5 years gained used for public services, for a country that collaborates with it’s neighbours and is a rule maker, for an outward looking country....0 -
mayonnaise wrote: »Common tactic among you lot these days, make it so that criticism of a racist is somehow as bad as the racism itself.
I know right. When did that become acceptable?0 -
mayonnaise wrote: »Common tactic among you lot these days, make it so that criticism of a racist is somehow as bad as the racism itself.
Who said that just you. If people had discussed problems and addressed some of the issues before referendum then we might not in the position we are now in.0
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