Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

phillw

cogito wrote: »

Rubbish. There are far more remain extremists in parliament than brexiteers.

Extreme behaviour: Leave on 31st October do or die.
Non extreme behaviour: Can we have some kind of compromise?

You make a loud point, but it's wrong.

phillw

cogito wrote: »

402 MPs voted against the WA in January and the 391 and 344 voted against in the two votes in March. There are at most 65 members of the ERG some of whom voted for the WA the third time it was submitted.

To say that the WA won't pass Parliament because of the ERG is simply not true. Most of those who voted against it were remainers who won’t accept any outcome other than remain.

Are you saying the electorate clearly don't want the conservatives to leave the EU or in the 2017 GE election they would have elected more of them?

lvader

phillw wrote: »

Extreme behaviour: Leave on 31st October do or die.
Non extreme behaviour: Can we have some kind of compromise?

You make a loud point, but it's wrong.

I recall the speaker saying something similar, I wouldn't call him an extremist even if others might disagree. Leaving with or without a deal is a compromise. One which parliament voted for.

lvader

phillw wrote: »

Are you saying the electorate clearly don't want the conservatives to leave the EU or in the 2017 GE election they would have elected more of them?

Labours 2017 manifesto was still to support leave.

cogito

phillw wrote: »

Extreme behaviour: Leave on 31st October do or die.
Non extreme behaviour: Can we have some kind of compromise?

You make a loud point, but it's wrong.

Depends what you mean by compromise. The Benn Act has put paid to that.

Crashy_Time

phillw wrote: »

Yeah, it's the rich that want brexit. It's not going to be good for any of us.

Didn`t realise that there were so many rich people in the UK?

BikingBud

phillw wrote: »

Are you saying the electorate clearly don't want the conservatives to leave the EU or in the 2017 GE election they would have elected more of them?

Any chance of reposting that thought in English?

The electorate, not the labour voters or the lib dems or plaid or any other party want to leave Europe.

Takedap

Crashy_Time wrote: »

Didn`t realise that there were so many rich people in the UK?

The ones that aren't rich don't really want it. It's just that they don't know that yet.

They are the group that will lose most in a No Deal scenario.

phillw

Crashy_Time wrote: »

Didn`t realise that there were so many rich people in the UK?

There aren't. There are a lot of people who incorrectly think they will benefit from brexit. I'm sure Farage & JRM will think nice thoughts about the sacrifice leave voters made for the rich to get richer.

BikingBud wrote: »

Any chance of reposting that thought in English?

The electorate, not the labour voters or the lib dems or plaid or any other party want to leave Europe.

Why didn't they vote conservative then?

I'll see if I can make this simpler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d12hAkkRGV4
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39630009

TM clearly laid out that if you wanted the Conservatives to leave the EU then you need to vote Conservative. The electorate decided against it.

"Every vote for the Conservatives will make it harder for opposition politicians who want to stop me from getting the job done.

"Every vote for the Conservatives will make me stronger when I negotiate for Britain with the prime ministers, presidents and chancellors of the European Union.

"Every vote for the Conservatives means we can stick to our plan for a stronger Britain and take the right long-term decisions for a more secure future.

The only logical conclusion is that the electorate doesn't want the conservatives to leave the EU.

Crashy_Time

cogito wrote: »

Depends what you mean by compromise. The Benn Act has put paid to that.

Not really, last paragraph outlines how stupid that "law" is, it just extends the uncertainty and will be challenged in the courts by the government, the damage that is already done to politics is going to get worse the longer they keep delaying the inevitable IMO.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49612757