Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Moe_The_Bartender

triathlon wrote: »

Right now I personally have Remain slightly ahead should there be another referendum, but lets call it roughly 50 50 with a small tolerance on each side who is on top. But the fact remains that in the 50% Remain vote all the business owners, homeowners, people who embrace immigrants, decency and by far most of UK wealth and of course by far the most intelligent and educated.
The Brexit side hold all those that are angry at society and their lot and so lashed out, more are non homeowners, unskilled and racist and backward looking at a world that was probably not the one they thought it was.
Of course this is only in general and my opinion of the two opposing sides, but Remain are the cream of which there are 50% and Brexit are the sour bitter muddy water with the same following. The "democracy must be upheld" argument is just nonsense in this case, the foundations of this country right now are on the Remain side, Brexit have little to lose.

Somehow before October 31st article 50 must be ripped up and we must start again. Yes I know there will be mayhem, but a few knuckle dragging racists screaming in the street will not last all that long and they will tire and go home to watch Eastenders or X Factor eventually

My God. You sound so gammon you should carry a fire extinguisher in case you self combust.

Clearly, you are not one of the highly educated young who you have such a high opinion of. As you say, this is only your opinion. Good job you are not pretending to provide any facts to back it up.

triathlon

Conina wrote: »

"weather" [sic] that's true or not (doubtful at best) such a response would hardly be surprising given your sneering derogatory sweeping generalisations inferring that somehow anybody whose opinion differs to yours must be inferior, be it educationally or whatever. "The cream", really - well certainly not judging by your own comments.

Duh, OK whether

Just get wound up or angry at whatever you want, even my rushed typing and spelling, one day you will look in that mirror and work out why you never made it, or at least not yet, it was that guy staring back at you and and not the worlds fault

Triple_Zero

So more EU migrants came than we were told and the economy did better than we were told too.
It sounds more and more like the anti-Brexit rhetoric has been full of even more lies than we first thought, doesn't it?

The Office for National Statistics added around 26 billion pounds to the size of the world’s fifth-biggest economy in 2016, a rise equivalent to around 1.3% of gross domestic product

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-economy/new-figures-show-uk-economy-a-little-larger-than-thought-idUKKCN1VA0R5

triathlon

Moe_The_Bartender wrote: »

My God. You sound so gammon you should carry a fire extinguisher in case you self combust.

Clearly, you are not one of the highly educated young who you have such a high opinion of. As you say, this is only your opinion. Good job you are not pretending to provide any facts to back it up.

"Gammon"

You are barking up the wrong tree son, I would allow 5 million more EU citizens tomorrow if I had my way.

Tromking

Triple_Zero wrote: »

So more EU migrants came than we were told and the economy did better than we were told too.
It sounds more and more like the anti-Brexit rhetoric has been full of even more lies than we first thought, doesn't it?

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-economy/new-figures-show-uk-economy-a-little-larger-than-thought-idUKKCN1VA0R5

Tenuous link.

movilogo

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/21/eu-migration-to-uk-underestimated-by-ons-analysts-say

EU migrants number understated
Non EU number overstated

Moe_The_Bartender

triathlon wrote: »

"Gammon"

You are barking up the wrong tree son, I would allow 5 million more EU citizens tomorrow if I had my way.

What would you have them do, Grandad? Are there 5 million jobs available?

Takedap

Moe_The_Bartender wrote: »

What would you have them do, Grandad? Are there 5 million jobs available?

Probably. The people create the jobs. Supply & demand.

It's a bit like when people say that we haven't got the infrastructure to support X number of extra people.



If an extra 100k people in a particular area means it needs more schools, bigger hospitals etc. then build them. It's called growth & is what capitalism depends on.

triathlon

Moe_The_Bartender wrote: »

What would you have them do, Grandad? Are there 5 million jobs available?

Apart from your delusional sense of entitlement what exactly are you angry about. One minute I am a racist middle aged gammon, and not I like immigrants too much.
For starters they will do the work a lot of our idle youngsters won't do and professionally and without complaint. If we all had their work ethic then this country would be buzzing, I have had them as tenants for 15 odd years now and cannot say one of them has given me the slightest problem. You as a tenant I can only imagine

BikingBud

mayonnaise wrote: »

You better take this up with Oxford Economics.
https://www.oxfordeconomics.com/recent-releases/8747673d-3b26-439b-9693-0e250df6dbba
There's a 'contact' link at the top of the page.

Well done you must feel very smug.

You quote the BBC and say somethings been underestimated and then consider that the figures quoted elsewhere must also be automatically incorrect and therefore consider redoing the Oxford stats to suggest we get more benefit.

I suggest an alternative and you just shrug it all off which to me indicates you either don't understand the issue and the maths or you are just trying to spout drivel for effect.

I'll leave others to decide.