Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

SouthLondonUser

What to say? I guess everyone can draw their own conclusions...

Thrugelmir

SouthLondonUser wrote: »

When people in towns where the largest employer is a car factory that exports a lot of its production to the EU vote to leave, that I will never understand...

Perhaps try living there for a while. A lot of employees at UK motor plants are fixed term contract workers. Jobs are far from secure and guaranteed. Honda at Swindon has had no hesitation in cutting shifts when demand has fallen.

New manufacturing plants are being re-engineered. Current way of building cars is becoming obsolete. The future is very real and already visible.

SouthLondonUser

So making your already unstable future even more unstable makes senses because...?

Tromking

SouthLondonUser wrote: »

What to say? I guess everyone can draw their own conclusions...

I’ve noticed you do like to seek the affirmation of other posters don”t you?

adindas

Keep in mind this is without UK asking for Extension:
They are getting scared now. Negotiation is about mind and power game.

https://news.sky.com/story/ursula-von-der-leyen-merkel-ally-voted-in-as-first-female-eu-commission-president-11764516

gfplux

adindas wrote: »

That the arch remoaners try to divert the issue of referendum result with the claim that the EU threw the UK out.

They know once you mention about the referendum they will be losing the whole argument.

And back to you with an ....arch quitling

gfplux

adindas wrote: »

Well that is one of the arch remoaners Herzlos is arguing in # 4606

And back to you with an .... arch quitlings

gfplux

Tromking wrote: »

Eh?
You know you can simultaneously have a view that the EU did not do enough and still believe the EU did not throw the U.K. out?

You see! That is exactly the type of casual phrase I mean.

If you had written

“that the EU and Britain did not do enough”

It would have been even handed. Perhaps it was a slip of the keyboard but you have just proven my point before the event.
Thank you.

Tromking

gfplux wrote: »

You see! That is exactly the type of casual phrase I mean.

If you had written

“that the EU and Britain did not do enough”

It would have been even handed. Perhaps it was a slip of the keyboard but you have just proven my point before the event.
Thank you.

You know it was you who penned the words “the EU did not do enough”?
I was merely responding to your post.
Good try.

adindas

Britain would take Ireland's economy down in no-deal Brexit

Britain would take Ireland’s economy down with it in a no-deal, Brexit Secretary warns

“Stephen Barclay says damage to Ireland is strong incentive to bring EU back to table Mr Barclay said 40 per cent of Ireland’s exports went through Dover and would be caught up in the ensuing chaos.”

[FONT=&quot]Also beside depending on Dover they will be isolated. In total 85% of their import export depend on the UK ports.[/FONT]

Reality Check: The Brexit challenge for Irish trade

Moreover, to substitute 85% of the port you rely on for your export import in a very short time is unthinkable if you will have a headline deficit in the region of -0.5 percent to -1.5 percent of GDP.

“Under the disorderly Brexit scenario, this could involve a headline deficit in the region of 0.5 percent to -1.5 percent of GDP for the next year, depending on the magnitude of the economic shock."

Brexit nightmare for Varadkar: Irish economy to suffer under no deal - 50,000 jobs at risk

With UK withhold the EUR 39bil and stop paying annual contribution will mean no more money to continue development, which depend on EU subsidy. Other countries who also depend on UK net contribution considering UK is the second net largest contributors in the EU. EU countries who depend on EU subsidy such as those who get a lot of agricultural subsidies, former eastern bloc countries.

Ireland the country who suffer the most have the power to veto the final EU agreement. The question whether they could survive given that 85% of their Export/import depend on UK Ports.

If it is about survival, everyone will do everything they could to survive including to veto EU final agreement. This is the last thing that the EU want as this will disrupt EU and leave EU with no confidence.[FONT=&quot]The last thing the EU want is Ireland to used their veto to block the EU final WA agreement leaving the EU with no confidence.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Theresa may did not play this mind and power game correctly which get her to be humiliated and need to beg.
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[FONT=&quot]This no-deal threat work. Watch this video of what Ireland said[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unxmoZ76Cbk&feature=youtu.be[/FONT]

Ireland has been used as a pawn by the EU. [FONT=&quot]But they are getting scared as they realize that time has come that they will not be so lucky like it used to be under Teresa May, the worst negotiatiot, the worst prime Minister.
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