Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

mayonnaise

I'm fully confident Boris will deliver a great brexit and on time also.
After all, Boris has a history of delivering.
Thames Estuary airport (Boris Island), the Garden Bridge, the successful conversion of the Olympic stadium, the highly popular Emirates cable car, water cannons, etc...
I'm also fully confident Boris will lie in front of bulldozers when Heathrow 3rd runway gets started.
Boris is a man of his words who delivers.

Vote Boris.

Takedap

lisyloo wrote: »

Boris Johnson said that.

But we know that he is a liar & a cheat. Why would we expect anything different?

SouthLondonUser

I'd also add to the list Boris' great project management skills and attention to detail.
Does any one remember the then new Routemaster bus?

It was meant to have conductors like in the good old days, to allow hopping on and off from the back. The conductors were fired because they were too expensive.

The batteries kept failing and the busses often ended up running on diesel (very polluting).

It had no air conditioning and no windows! It was nicknamed ToastMaster. Look it up. For years it was claimed that windows weren't necessary, till they finally backtracked and retro-fitted, at great cost, windows, which however only add minimal ventilation. True, London is not Madrid, it's not hot very often, but we do get heatwaves, too, even if short ones.

A fitting punishment would be to force Boris to commute from his girlfriend's flat in South London to Westminster using a windowless Routemaster bus for the whole summer...

Negotiating and managing an exit from the EU (something which as far as I know is pretty much unprecedented) will clearly be easier than launching a new bus (which isn't exactly unprecedented), so what could possibly go wrong?

SpiderLegs

The choice between liar/cheat and anti-semite/Marxist really is a tough decision.
Let’s not pretend that a vote for the Lib Dems is anything other than a vote for the latter.

What a really depressing political time we live in.

SouthLondonUser

SpiderLegs wrote: »

The choice between liar/cheat and anti-semite/Marxist really is a tough decision.
Let’s not pretend that a vote for the Lib Dems is anything other than a vote for the latter.

What a really depressing political time we live in.

We have to thank the perverse and highly distortive first past the post system for this. A proportional system is probably too alien to the political culture in this country, but at least an AV system, like the Australian, would limit this issue (I don't like parties A and B, but is a vote for party C a wasted vote?).

AV and proportional systems do make it easier for alternative parties to emerge; this may have not been necessary in the UK till recently, but it is now, when, regardless of their position on Brexit, it is fair to say most voters are very unhappy with Tories and Labour.

lisyloo

Takedap wrote: »

But we know that he is a liar & a cheat. Why would we expect anything different?

Well yes, but it's just amazing a liar and a cheat can just get away with it at that level.

lisyloo

SpiderLegs wrote: »

The choice between liar/cheat and anti-semite/Marxist really is a tough decision.
Let’s not pretend that a vote for the Lib Dems is anything other than a vote for the latter.

What a really depressing political time we live in.

Do you have any links for anti-semitism in the lib dems?
Your description sounds like labour.


But yes, ultimately we have to choose between the choices we are given.

Takedap

lisyloo wrote: »

Well yes, but it's just amazing a liar and a cheat can just get away with it at that level.

He an amateur compared to the lookee-likee across the pond.

Takedap

SouthLondonUser wrote: »

I'd also add to the list Boris' great project management skills and attention to detail.
Does any one remember the then new Routemaster bus?

Maybe they were built out of old crates with happy smiling passengers painted on?

SpiderLegs

lisyloo wrote: »

Do you have any links for anti-semitism in the lib dems?
Your description sounds like labour.

But yes, ultimately we have to choose between the choices we are given.

Even on their best day the Lib Dem’s are not going to get any more than say 50 seats. Have a look at where they finished first or second last time. Anyone trying to make out they are some massive new force compared to the size of the two main parties are deluding themselves.
So all they do is put Jeremy Corbyn in Downing Street. Some people will be absolutely fine with that.
It’s the same as voting for the brexit party.

Now I’m not saying that either party couldn’t get to those dizzy heights over the longer term, but if we have a GE in the next 6-12 months they are both just protest votes against tories and enablers for a labour govt.
Let’s not try pretending otherwise.