Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Tromking

Herzlos wrote: »

How does leaving the EU defeat the status quo? We're going to get more of the same, but with less restrictions on the establishment causing the problems.
Protesting against what?z
What's Westminster-generated austerity got to do with the EU?
Remaining would make Westminsters life easier, sure, but it'd also make everyone elses life easier. There's nothing honourable about cutting your nose off to spite your face.
Why? What do you gain it?

As a resident of Scotland I don’t think you have any comprehension of the level of austerity we’ve endured down here. Brexit is said to be an English phenomenon, there’s a reason for that.
The political implosion we are currently living through has been one of the many joys of Brexit. When the likes of Dominic Greive and Nick Boles are fighting back tears as they wrestle with their ongoing membership of the Conservative Party, it makes me feel warm inside. Their cosy world has been rocked and not before time.

Thrugelmir

Takedap wrote: »

It's an internal election which will result in choosing the next Prime Minister of this country.

We were left with Brown after Blair abdicated. Should always give people a chance. Soon enough there'll be another General Election. If the elected candidate isn't up to the job. Lib Dems are hardly blessed with exceptional candidates either.

phillw

Tromking wrote: »

When the likes of Dominic Greive and Nick Boles are fighting back tears as they wrestle with their ongoing membership of the Conservative Party, it makes me feel warm inside. Their cosy world has been rocked and not before time.

Once you remove the remainers from the conservatives then you're just left with out of touch right wing !!!!!!!s, the only real benefit is they'll become completely un-electable in our life times.

Tromking wrote: »

I voted precisely for the sort of political crisis we are witnessing now and would do the same again tomorrow.

The only crisis at the moment is how we're going to win against the treachery of leave voters. When we succeed it will go down in history like the end of first and second world wars and when we won the world cup. The only problem will be how you admit to the future generations that you voted to leave, when they come home from school learning all about it.

Herzlos

Tromking wrote: »

As a resident of Scotland I don’t think you have any comprehension of the level of austerity we’ve endured down here. Brexit is said to be an English phenomenon, there’s a reason for that.
The political implosion we are currently living through has been one of the many joys of Brexit. When the likes of Dominic Greive and Nick Boles are fighting back tears as they wrestle with their ongoing membership of the Conservative Party, it makes me feel warm inside. Their cosy world has been rocked and not before time.

I appreciate that the Scottish Government has used what powers it's allowed to have to undo the worst of the austerity.



But that still doesn't explain why it makes sense to make it worse in protest of it being bad. Sure, you can make some rich toffs sweat a bit. But none of these weasels really care, about the voters, or about their jobs (many of them will be set for life as an MP or not, even BoJo is on record complaining that an MP's salary isn't enough to live off, and indeed he makes much, much more, writing dodgy newspaper articles).


The only thing you can be sure of with Brexit, is that the counties hurt by Tory austerity policies will suffer more than some rich Etonians.

borntobefree

Tromking wrote: »

The electorate are voting wantonly against the status quo. The handy thing about the EU referendum was that it was a binary question, no multiple party choices to water down the protest vote.
Part of the equation when I voted Leave was don’t put me and family through an austerity era and then expect me to make your life easy by supinely voting to remain in the EU.
I voted precisely for the sort of political crisis we are witnessing now and would do the same again tomorrow.

WOW.

Well, there we have it folks.

Tromking voted to Leave the EU as some sort of punishment beating.

There is only one problem: the people who suffered from austerity are the same people who will suffer from Brexit....

cogito

Tromking wrote: »

As a resident of Scotland I don’t think you have any comprehension of the level of austerity we’ve endured down here. Brexit is said to be an English phenomenon, there’s a reason for that.
The political implosion we are currently living through has been one of the many joys of Brexit. When the likes of Dominic Greive and Nick Boles are fighting back tears as they wrestle with their ongoing membership of the Conservative Party, it makes me feel warm inside. Their cosy world has been rocked and not before time.

What austerity is that that has involved borrowing billions of pounds every year? Are you suggesting that we should have borrowed even more and, if so, what's your programme for repaying it? Perhaps you want future generations to do that by inflicting austerity on them. You seem to think that there is such a thing as a free lunch.

kingstreet

Tromking wrote: »

The electorate are voting wantonly against the status quo. The handy thing about the EU referendum was that it was a binary question, no multiple party choices to water down the protest vote.
Part of the equation when I voted Leave was don’t put me and family through an austerity era and then expect me to make your life easy by supinely voting to remain in the EU.
I voted precisely for the sort of political crisis we are witnessing now and would do the same again tomorrow.

Exactly!

It was sweet FA to do with the EU.

You wanted to give the establishment a bloody nose and have no other way to do it because of FPTP. It's completely understandable but what you've probably achieved is more or worse of what you wanted to protest about.

Successive Governments of both colours have routinely allowed a massive disparity to grow between different areas and when we had a system to increase spending on eg GP availability in areas affected by immigration the Conservative Government put and end to it. Hence increasing the antipathy towards immigration.

I and mine will never, ever vote Conservative again.

mayonnaise

Tromking wrote: »

When the likes of Dominic Greive and Nick Boles are fighting back tears as they wrestle with their ongoing membership of the Conservative Party, it makes me feel warm inside. Their cosy world has been rocked and not before time.

If and when they get deselected and are replaced by the likes of Nigel Farage, Tommy Robinson and Annunziata Rees-Mogg, do you think the 'left behind former pit villages of Northern England' will get the attention they need and benefit from this in any way?

Incomprehensive that a unionised public sector worker like yourself is cheering on the far-right in your desire for political crisis. Be careful what you wish for.

Takedap

Herzlos wrote: »

But that still doesn't explain why it makes sense to make it worse in protest of it being bad. Sure, you can make some rich toffs sweat a bit. But none of these weasels really care, about the voters, or about their jobs (many of them will be set for life as an MP or not, even BoJo is on record complaining that an MP's salary isn't enough to live off, and indeed he makes much, much more, writing dodgy newspaper articles).

The only thing that Boris cares about is getting his name in the history books.

Zero_Sum

mayonnaise wrote: »

Well deserved I'd say
His 'dancing queen' impression was priceless.

He was probably drunk again