Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Thrugelmir

buglawton wrote: »

31% of ABC1s are Brexit supporting vs 34% of the overall UK population. (YouGov)

In other words let's maintain the staus quo at the expense of the rest. Hardly surprising the country is divided.

Arklight

Thrugelmir wrote: »

In other words let's maintain the staus quo at the expense of the rest. Hardly surprising the country is divided.

You and the other forum Rightists have spent the better part of your entire time on the forum telling people without much money that it's their fault they are poor and they just need to work harder and stop being jealous of you.

Now you have decided that being poor isn't their fault after all and it's all the fault of Europe.

At least you agree with Jeremy Corbyn then, finally, and ironically.

Tromking

Arklight wrote: »

I will spell out the point you are so unsuccessfully trying not to fall into. Not all Leave voters are racists, but every racist voted Leave.

If you are in absolute favour of something that people who are indefensibly awful are also in absolute favour of, maybe it's you who needs to interrogate your beliefs abut that thing and not me.

Look Arky, you can’t fill most of your posts with the narrative that the indefensibly awful voted for Leave then equivocate by saying rather meekly that “Not all Leave voters are racists, but every racist voted Leave”.
Were your ‘indefensibly awful’ sufficient in number to swing the vote toward Leave, your constant invective on the subject would suggest you think they were, or perhaps you’re just angry and it assuages that anger by lashing out.
IMO, the vast majority of Leave voters are thoroughly decent people who in a binary choice merely voted differently to you.

Takedap

Tromking wrote: »

So how many "thick racist low lifes" made up the 17.4 million?
Ball park figure will do.

Couldn't put a figure on it. But if you think it's an inconsequentially small number then you need to leave your bubble a bit more often.

If you then add in the ones who were led to believe that all their problems were the fault of the EU, the ones who were told that they had nothing left to lose & the ones who blindly take in whatever the Daily Mail tells them it becomes an even larger number.

phillw

Tromking wrote: »

It's not so much a belief on my part as something that is patently obvious whenever your mob posts on here.
You're a fine example of Brexit derangement syndrome yourself.

You sound bitter, why are you bothering to insult me? Don't you realise that very few even read this thread?

Tromking wrote: »

IMO, the vast majority of Leave voters are thoroughly decent people who in a binary choice merely voted differently to you.

You are making the assumption that because people may be generally nice to people they know that they are thoroughly decent people. This is wrong on so many levels. It's how you think about people you don't know that defines whether you are decent.

If you dislike EU politicians or immigrants that you have never met and use lazy stereotypes then believe me you are not a thoroughly decent person.

BikingBud wrote: »

Take a step back, understand democratic process rather than try to undermine it and move on.

We have moved on, which is why we haven't left yet. It's the racists and xenophobes that fear having their victory ripped from under them that are unable to move on.

You need to understand that democracy is not just what you want it to be. Lying enough to get more than 50% of the votes on a single day is not democracy. What is happening in parliament is democracy. Why do you keep wanting to undermine it? Just move on.

Thrugelmir

phillw wrote: »

What is happening in parliament is democracy.

Quote of the month so far........:T

wintersunshine

I'm old. Nearly 60. I've never seen such awful alternatives from the Tories and Labour.

Dreadful.

Thrugelmir

wintersunshine wrote: »

I'm old. Nearly 60. I've never seen such awful alternatives from the Tories and Labour.

Dreadful.

New era of politics on the horizon. The old guard is redundant.

BobQ

Thrugelmir wrote: »

In other words let's maintain the staus quo at the expense of the rest. Hardly surprising the country is divided.

In other words 65% of the population do not support Brexit.

I must say that any alliance that unites Jacob Rees Mogg, Boris Johnson, Kate Hoey and Jeremy Corbyn is suspicious by its very nature.

phillw

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Quote of the month so far........:T

democracy: a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.

Theresa May lost her majority at the 2017 election. Labour clearly stated in their manifesto they wanted the benefits of the single market. If people had wanted brexit they would have given the conservatives the landslide that Theresa May asked for, so that it could be implemented.

She was very clear on the subject

"Division in Westminster will risk our ability to make a success of Brexit and it will cause damaging uncertainty and instability to the country.

"So we need a general election and we need one now, because we have at this moment a one-off chance to get this done while the European Union agrees its negotiating position and before the detailed talks begin.

The country gave her an increased division in Westminster, that is the will of the people. Leave voters who are still banging on about brexit want to subvert democracy.