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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

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  • buglawton
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    Post-Brexit I think the UK will be thankful for any investment it can get; we won't have the luxury of being picky...
    Not just scaremongering but defeatism as well?
  • buglawton wrote: »
    So no actual move of producion then. Rather, a decision not to invest in a new 4WD diesel SUV in the UK but to do it in Japan. Like, thats just the kind of investment the future the UK (and the motorists of the future) need. I call that a piece of luck then.
    I am constantly amazed by the inability of some remainers to understand what is being said so that they can concentrate on their loathing of Brexit.
    buglawton wrote: »
    Not just scaremongering but defeatism as well?
    Yes, the quote you include beautifully shows the remainers inability to accept and/or understand because just a few posts earlier is proof of the country seeing record investment!
    The infighting and nonsense caused so far hasn't stopped this investment but leaving and knowing where the country is placed will stop investment according to some.
    It's a laughable opinion, as evidenced already by global views of European financial markets which the EU had hoped would benefit from Brexit but are not, certainly to any meaningful degree. So it looks like you're correct with your "Not just scaremongering but defeatism as well?"assessment..
  • Herzlos
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    wunferall wrote: »
    Here's another good reason why remainers are increasingly vocal and increasingly desperate:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47105990
    :T
    Yes, it looks like remainers are at least seeing their opportunity to reverse the Brexit vote disappear as each day brings the inevitable leaving ever closer.
    :T


    And you actually believe anything May says?

    Apparently, most of her cabinet sources, those who actually interact with her, regard the idea of being able to conclude anything by Brexit day as "fantasy".


    I'm certainly not desperate, I'm quite happy for it to go either way, but if we don't get anything sorted on time we're more likely to withdraw A50 than crash out.
  • MobileSaver
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    Post-Brexit I think the UK will be thankful for any investment it can get; we won't have the luxury of being picky...
    buglawton wrote: »
    Not just scaremongering but defeatism as well?

    It's not scaremongering, it's realism!

    Scaremongering is the spreading of frightening rumours; maybe you missed it but Nissan no longer investing in their new models in Sunderland thanks to Brexit is a fact not a rumour.
    Every generation blames the one before...
    Mike + The Mechanics - The Living Years
  • kabayiri
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    melanzana wrote: »
    There was nothing to stop UK from having a low Corporate Tax rate either was there? They chose not to.

    So the angst about other EU countries who did this is moot IMO.

    It's probably an argument for the EU harmonising things like this across the zone tbh.

    As with many things, if the EU is honest, the solution for them is an increased level of control from the centre.

    I get why they would want this, but it doesn't really play well with national politicians who like to think they are in control.
  • buglawton
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    edited 4 February 2019 at 2:10PM
    It's not scaremongering, it's realism!

    Scaremongering is the spreading of frightening rumours; maybe you missed it but Nissan no longer investing in their new models in Sunderland thanks to Brexit is a fact not a rumour.
    So Nissan isn't going to add a 4WD Diesel SUV to it's UK manufacturing range.

    More nimble manufactures attuned to real world personal transport needs would be welcome though.

    Oh, wait, 400 staff taken on at new Dyson electric car development facility
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-45345778
    £80m already invested, total of £200m envisaged.
    That's more like it!

    And this Dyson R&D won't be going to Singapore where Dyson plans a global corporate HQ.
  • spikyone
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    It's not scaremongering, it's realism!

    Scaremongering is the spreading of frightening rumours; maybe you missed it but Nissan no longer investing in their new models in Sunderland thanks to Brexit is a fact not a rumour.

    Nissan are investing in new models in Sunderland; the new Qashqai will be built there and they sell far more of those than they do X-Trails. The reason they're not going to make diesel X-Trails in Sunderland is that people aren't buying diesel anything any more so it makes no sense to make something in such small volumes.
    What they're actually doing is moving it alongside production of the petrol model in Japan; the petrol version was always going to be built there. All they've done is move the diesel version to Japan for better economy of scale. If this were Brexit related, there are lots of places in the EU that the diesel model could have been manufactured instead.
  • This is interesting:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-already-been-cancelled-heres-13896286?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar

    Regardless of your view of brexit, it shows the size of the legislative mountain the government has to climb...
  • cogito
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    It's not scaremongering, it's realism!

    Scaremongering is the spreading of frightening rumours; maybe you missed it but Nissan no longer investing in their new models in Sunderland thanks to Brexit is a fact not a rumour.

    It's a factor, not a fact.
  • buglawton
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    This is interesting:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-already-been-cancelled-heres-13896286?utm_source=sharebar&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=sharebar

    Regardless of your view of brexit, it shows the size of the legislative mountain the government has to climb...
    Colour me not surprised in the least.
    OK, the video does explain about Parliament wasting it's time on hot air instead of getting on with the needed tasks, but the question I'd like answered is: Why can't the government be honest about it? Since we're going to find out the (to me, obvious all along) truth in a few weeks time anyway
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