Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

MobileSaver

wunferall wrote: »

No he hasn't - or don't you know who the boss of Nissan is? ... It was the firm's Europe chairman

That'll be a Nissan boss then?!? As I said, the Brexiteer denial is to be expected but the desperation to duck the issue is surprising even me.

wunferall wrote: »

even when nothing official has been said upon which to base their derision!

You seem to have missed the official statements from the boss of Nissan's Europe division:

He said the announcement would be "interpreted by a lot of people as a decision related to Brexit" and that "uncertainty around the UK's future relationship with the EU is not helping companies like ours to plan for the future".

wunferall

MobileSaver wrote: »

That'll be a Nissan boss then?!? As I said, the Brexiteer denial is to be expected but the desperation to duck the issue is surprising even me.

Ah, another remainer unable to distinguish the difference between "a" and "the" I see.
:rotfl:
THE boss as per your original incorrect claim is in fact one Hiroto Saikawa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroto_Saikawa
You'll be the one ducking the issue then, more-so since you completely ignored the linked quotes regarding investment!


Given those I suppose there's no wonder you can't tell the difference between "would be interpreted as" and "is"; or that he says uncertainty isn't helping - not that it has been a factor.

The supposed educational superiority of the remain faction is certainly not evident in their interpretation of so much which is Brexit-related ........... unless of course these remnainers are deliberately being deceitful.
:whistle:

MobileSaver

MobileSaver wrote: »

Nissan boss has now confirmed Brexit was a factor in the decision;

wunferall wrote: »

Ah, another remainer unable to distinguish the difference between "a" and "the" I see.

Ah, another Brexiteer who has a problem with the facts and truth and just makes things up to suit his agenda; please show me exactly where I said "the" boss.

kingstreet

On 27 October 2016, the British Government claimed credit for Nissan deciding to construct the X-Trail at Sunderland.

Now that isn't happening it's all to do with diesel engines?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37787890

Nissan to build new models in Sunderland

Nissan has confirmed it will build both the new Qashqai and the X-Trail SUV at its Sunderland plant following government "support and assurances".

The Japanese company's commitment to Britain's biggest car plant had been in doubt following the EU referendum.

Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said the government must make public any deals struck with the firm.

However, Business Secretary Greg Clark said there was "no question of financial compensation" for Nissan.

The company's decision comes as economic growth in the three months after the Brexit vote confounded expectations, increasing by 0.5% - slower than the 0.7% in the previous quarter but higher than analysts' estimates of about 0.3%.

Nissan's decision is the first major development for the car industry since the Brexit vote and secures 7,000 jobs.

"The support and assurances of the UK government enabled us to decide that the next-generation Qashqai and X-Trail will be produced at Sunderland," said Carlos Ghosn, Nissan's chief executive, adding that he welcomed Prime Minister Theresa May's "commitment to the automotive industry in Britain".

Last month, he warned that Nissan might not invest in the Sunderland plant unless the government guaranteed compensation for costs related to any new trade tariffs resulting from Brexit.

Mrs May described the announcement as "fantastic news", adding: "This vote of confidence shows Britain is open for business."

Mr Clark said: "The fact Nissan have not only made a long-term commitment to build the next generation Qashqai and X-Trail at Sunderland, but decided to upgrade their factory to a super-plant, manufacturing over 600,000 cars a year, is proof of the strength of the sector."

A Nissan spokesman said making the X-Trail at Sunderland could lead to hundreds of new jobs being created in the coming years. It will be the first time the model has been made outside Japan.

The production line was stopped at 11am on Thursday so workers could be told about the decision.

A senior Nissan Europe executive, Colin Lawther, said the company had received "no special deal".

"It's just a commitment from the government to work with the whole of the automotive industry to make sure the whole automotive industry in the UK remains competitive," he told the BBC.

"We would expect nothing for us that the rest of the industry wouldn't be able to have access to. We see this as a whole industry thing, not a Nissan thing."

I can accept diesel as an issue, but St Theresa doesn't get a free pass for "fantastic news" or "This vote of confidence shows Britain is open for business" when the good news suddenly turns bad, regardless of the reason(s).

kabayiri

buglawton wrote: »

I'm sure you're right. Who needs a democracy when our best interests should be dictated by a group of big-manufacturing CEOs?

The boss of Facebook, when faced with one of the biggest data abuse scandals you can imagine, chooses to answer questions to MEPs in Brussels, but not sit in front of our select committee.

Yep. We can see where the balance of power is moving if we stay within the EU.

wunferall

kingstreet wrote: »

On 27 October 2016, the British Government claimed credit for Nissan deciding to construct the X-Trail at Sunderland.

Now that isn't happening it's all to do with diesel engines?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37787890


I can accept diesel as an issue, but St Theresa doesn't get a free pass for "fantastic news" or "This vote of confidence shows Britain is open for business" when the good news suddenly turns bad, regardless of the reason(s).

I think you need to read post number 303.
One swallow does not a summer make.


BTW, other Japanese companies are investing in the UK.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-fuller-smith-divestiture-asahi-group/japans-asahi-looks-beyond-brexit-britain-with-fullers-beer-buy-idUKKCN1PJ0Q5

melanzana

Forget about it. Our best interests are not being looked after at all. Too much uncertainty, and too many job losses and movement of capital and entities to places like Dublin. They will never come back.

Whatever about the merits/demerits of Brexit, it is a disaster, no one knows anything. Least of all those in Government fighting amongst themselves about something they haven't a clue about.

If the worst happens very very few of those deciding on our futures will suffer, least of all Theresa May. So they can gamble with our futures in order to uphold the unity of the Tory Party.

That is what irritates me.

Labour needs a big kick up the eighties too, they are not much better, but they are not in power either. I think they are sunk. But FPTP means that true democracy will never be a feature in the UK either, if it survives united.

MobileSaver

wunferall wrote: »

But since you asked, you said:

MobileSaver wrote: »

Nissan boss has now confirmed Brexit was a factor in the decision;

Again, THE boss of Nissan is Hiroto Saikawa.

It is quite bizarre that you should keep claiming I said something that I didn't and then keep reposting the very evidence that proves I did not say "the" boss. :huh:

I can only imagine that you do not mind making yourself look even more foolish and desperate if it means you can deflect away from the plain fact that Nissan categorically stated Brexit was a factor in their decision.

wunferall

MobileSaver wrote: »

It is quite bizarre that you should keep claiming I said something that I didn't and then keep reposting the very evidence that proves I did not say "the" boss. :huh:

I can only imagine that you do not mind making yourself look even more foolish and desperate if it means you can deflect away from the plain fact that Nissan categorically stated Brexit was a factor in their decision.

You tried to mislead.
You got caught out.
Get over it.

MobileSaver

wunferall wrote: »

You tried to mislead.
You got caught out.
Get over it.

You tried to deflect, you failed miserably and Nissan categorically stated Brexit was a factor in their decision. Get over it. :rotfl: