Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

Thrugelmir

phillw wrote: »

If TM had added a referendum in there

Didn't realise that the EU had made additional proposals for us to vote on.

buglawton

movilogo wrote: »

If there is an election and Farage can set up Brexit party properly by then, all Leave votes will go to him and Remain votes will be split among other parties.

Both Labour and Conservative will lose seats.

Unless, TM breaks parliament and make the default No Deal route - in that way Tories can still attract some good number of votes.

Lovely piece in todays (usually Remainer) Times about how the Brexit movement disbanded too early and would 'get the band back together' on Betrayal Day.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/beware-the-anger-of-frustrated-brexiteers-wdrtk6pm9

Thrugelmir

coastline wrote: »

Many people will give up voting after this especially the older ones. I've heard plenty say that already.

People will vote to avoid the unpalatable. The issue for all the mainstream parties is protest votes. Just needs independents to stand on a single issue to split the vote.

Likewise SNP isn't representative of the Scottish electorate. Everything is up for grabs.

Who is funding ChangeUK ? Wouldn't surprise me if it's someone like Richard Branson. Who was very close to Blair and Nu Labour.

Arklight

Brexit is a busted flush. The UK is trapped in the Eddie's of European power.

Never has the EU been so united. Never has the UK been so divided.

Brexit is truly the birth of the European nation.

Great job Brexiters. Great flipping job.

You've created the superstate you always feared and have ensured we're on the outside of it.

AG47

It’s goign to be no deal on April 12

TM will be happy so she can say I told you that you should’ve listened to me. She won’t be blamed, but can quite confidently say she did here best but her hands were tied.

Between a rock and a Hard place

undetterred

phillw wrote: »

From what MPs have been saying on TV they mostly hate the idea of signing up to a blind brexit which in time is likely to be unpopular with both leave and remain voters, without the electorate taking some form of responsibility over.

If TM had added a referendum in there then it would have gotten past bercow without gutting the WA and it would have gained support from the opposition. Especially in light of TM departure and being replaced with Bojo, Gove or someone even worse.



Pity they couldn't have done it earlier. I think a lot of parents and grand parents have sealed their fate when it comes to being put into a home or withdrawing care.

Bitter Phil..

Thrugelmir

mayonnaise wrote: »

Leave vote will be split between Farage's new outfit, UKIP and the Tory far right.
So that's another hung parliament then.

From the European perspective is it worth offering a long extension........

Irish border issue may be unresolvable. With neither side willing to compromise their understandable positions.

BobQ

Thrugelmir wrote: »

From the European perspective is it worth offering a long extension........

Irish border issue may be unresolvable. With neither side willing to compromise their understandable positions.

Remain resolves it

A customs Union resolves it.:)

BobQ

coastline wrote: »

Looking at today and the two main parties, Tory and Labour , the result was in favour of the deal. Yes of course it doesn't matter but here goes. In favour Tory 277 + 5 Lab = 282 . Against Tory 34 + 234 Lab = 268 . So the Others were mostly against..

You forgot to mention that if you only count Mrs May's vote she had 100% of the vote.

Thrugelmir

BobQ wrote: »

A customs Union resolves it.:)

At what cost? Under what EU terms?