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Brexit the economy and house prices part 7: Brexit Harder

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  • Cakeguts
    Cakeguts Posts: 7,627 Forumite
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    edited 25 March 2019 at 4:00PM
    I actually don't care about the answers I just did it to see if they would reply with something that is not in the script.



    I am sure there are other questions I could have asked but I wanted something that could not be answered using the set answers that they have from the propaganda machine.



    No answers or even comments unlike on here where there are comments means that the Facebook groupies are behaving like a cult religion. Now that is the interesting bit for me.
  • Takedap
    Takedap Posts: 808 Forumite
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    Cakeguts wrote: »
    No answers or even comments unlike on here where there are comments means that the Facebook groupies are behaving like a cult religion. Now that is the interesting bit for me.


    I think the cult religion concept applies more to the "If only you losers had accepted the result, it would all be OK" brigade.
    I've never seen a Remain voter resorting to invoking the spirit of the Blitz.
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    Cakeguts wrote: »
    Try posting questions where the answers cannot be found on the Remain propaganda script on Facebook and it all goes quiet.

    My questions were these.

    1 What is the EU doing to stem the rise of parties like Vox in Spain.

    How would anyone on this site know what the EU is doing on this. It is national governments that monitor illegal political activities in its member states


    2 How does the EU intend to fund itself if the biggest net contributor goes into recession as it is on the brink of doing?

    The cost of running the EU is quite small in relation to the national governments, about 6% of the EU budget which itself is only a small part of the national budgets of its members.

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    We need to have a sense of proportion.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 16,043 Forumite
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    Cakeguts wrote: »
    I actually don't care about the answers I just did it to see if they would reply with something that is not in the script.


    You've lost me here. What questions did you ask that couldn't be answered, or are you reaching since your questions were so easy?


    The reason they are so easy for Remainers is that we're not following a script, there's no cult, no leader, nada. It's all pretty much base logic and reasoning.


    I have noticed that there's a trend of Leavers being accused of something (like being unable to provide any detail on anything or answer something that's not in a soundbite), and turning round and accusing Remainers of the same thing.


    I've got plenty of questions that've never been answered by Leavers, no matter how often I try.


    Such as:

    What EU legislations do you actually not like? (I have to admit, I got an answer to this one, once. Someone doesn't like how EU regulations for deactivating firearms are much stricter and thus to sell a deactivated rifle in the UK you need to send it to get re-deactived from 1 of 2 armouries in the UK at fairly substantial cost. But if that was the only reason to leave we could have just made that process free).
    What trade agreements do we want outside of the EU? I can understand the theory, but I've never seen an example of anything we're being prevented from doing.
    How do you propose companies overcome JIT difficulties?
    How does this borderless border work?
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    Looks like 29/03 is off?
    AFAIK, the extension till 12/04 was a EU proposal, but at what point did the UK accept this and amended the bill that stated 29/03?
    Genuine question, as I'm not keeping up with all these shenanigans anymore.
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • lisyloo
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    mayonnaise wrote: »
    Looks like 29/03 is off?
    AFAIK, the extension till 12/04 was a EU proposal, but at what point did the UK accept this and amended the bill that stated 29/03?
    Genuine question, as I'm not keeping up with all these shenanigans anymore.

    Statutory instrument needs to be agreed by both houses this week.
  • lisyloo
    lisyloo Posts: 30,094 Forumite
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    Statutory instrument to change brexit date being put to the House of Commons on weds (from May).
  • Cakeguts
    Cakeguts Posts: 7,627 Forumite
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    You've lost me here. What questions did you ask that couldn't be answered, or are you reaching since your questions were so easy?


    The reason they are so easy for Remainers is that we're not following a script, there's no cult, no leader, nada. It's all pretty much base logic and reasoning.


    I have noticed that there's a trend of Leavers being accused of something (like being unable to provide any detail on anything or answer something that's not in a soundbite), and turning round and accusing Remainers of the same thing.


    I've got plenty of questions that've never been answered by Leavers, no matter how often I try.


    Such as:

    What EU legislations do you actually not like? (I have to admit, I got an answer to this one, once. Someone doesn't like how EU regulations for deactivating firearms are much stricter and thus to sell a deactivated rifle in the UK you need to send it to get re-deactived from 1 of 2 armouries in the UK at fairly substantial cost. But if that was the only reason to leave we could have just made that process free).
    What trade agreements do we want outside of the EU? I can understand the theory, but I've never seen an example of anything we're being prevented from doing.
    How do you propose companies overcome JIT difficulties?
    How does this borderless border work?


    You won't get any answers to questions like that. They are far too complicated.


    These are the answers given to any question.


    1 The Leave campaign told lies. I think this is the winner of the prize for the most times posted.



    2 The Leave voters believed lies. This would get second prize.


    3 I can't understand why people voted Leave when the EU makes grants (of money) to the UK.


    4 There are 16 million of us and they are not listening. No definition of who "they"are.



    5 The Leave campaign was influenced by Trump.



    6 The Leave group spent a lot of money on their campaign.



    7 Our children and grandchildren will not be able to travel to Europe.



    As I found if you ask a question to which none of these answers will fit you don't get an answer.



    One that I certainly know wouldn't get an answer is this. How do you suppose the French government will persuade the Yellow Vests to pay higher taxes to make up the difference in contributions to the EU if they couldn't get them to pay extra tax on fuel?
  • smipsy
    smipsy Posts: 223 Forumite
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    does it really need to be agreed? didn't May say it's irrelevant even if they vote it down, because it's "international law anyway", whatever that means for her.
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    lisyloo wrote: »
    Statutory instrument to change brexit date being put to the House of Commons on weds (from May).

    May is being her usual evasive self in the Commons - not answering questions.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
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