Jaguar Land Rover to cut up to 5,000 jobs

AdrianC

Hardly unusual for folding rear seats to be an extra-cost option on saloons, if available at all. It's only very recently that it's been standard on 3-series saloons, and it's only certain specs of C-class that have them.

motorguy

wymondham wrote: »

Jaguar lost my business when they asked for an extra £500 on a potential Jaguar lease just so the back seats went down..... no thanks!

In fairness, thats probably common practice for something like that - its not going to add anything to the resale value of the car for them so they're making you fund it.

mustiuc

This has nothing to do with brexit.

JLR and Nissan never said in the last one and a half years they need clear terms and solutions about brexit, otherwise it will end up with many job losses. If i'm not mistaken, in one city with huge brexit voters, Nissan have a very big site there. I am looking forward to see what Nissan and other companies are saying in the next month.

In the last two years EU migrants halved and non eu migrants nearly doubled. The government is more happy to bring non eu because is cheaper. This is absolutely opposite of what the average brexit supporter whats; more immigrants and color in their "british town/village".
For a couple of months now, eu migrants could apply via mobile app for pre-settled or settled status in certain sectors, including NHS. Home office said, they need to extend their trial and also, only 77% were successful. We talk here about "skilled workers" not gypsy romanian pickers. How will they compensate the rest of % ? Non eu staff OR short staff as always. This country will never survive without migrants. Eu or non eu, no matter what many moan about.

AdrianC

The government isn't "bringing" anybody anywhere. It allows non-EU people to "bring" themselves here, no more than that.



Non-EU net migration hasn't increased that much over the last decade (high currently, yes, about 250k/yr - compared to a low of 150k in 2013ish, and an average around 200k). But, yes, EU net migration has fallen. Can't think why...




from

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/bulletins/migrationstatisticsquarterlyreport/november2018

RichardD1970

TBH a restructure of the management and pruning is well overdue.

It was fine (but not ideal) running with all the excess when things were rosey but now, with all the challenges in the market, it needs addressing.

Some production Manpower are going soon, which is inevitable due to moving Disco to Slovakia, but AFAIA the plans for the Solihull site haven't changed, with the investment for the new MLA platform going ahead.

Hopefully the issues in China will be resolved to some extent soon. Just to add the "full fat", big profit, RR are all made at Solihull, China only make the Evoque, Discovery Sport, Jag XFL/XEL (both only available for the China market) and E-Pace.

The next couple of years will be "interesting". The EMC at Wolverhampton is going to be building the next gen Electric Drive Units alongside the current petrol and diesel engines and a new facility is under construction at Hams Hall (near Birmingham) to build the batteries for these.

Not heard anything concrete about what is happening at the Castle Brom plant, just rumours, from it's closing (doubt it) to it'll be a pressings plant only (old rumour that's been around for years) or a centre for electric car manufacture (i-Pace move, new electric XJ and new models).

AnotherJoe

Gloomendoom wrote: »

That's what I heard too. From within JLR.

Brexit is a convenient scapegoat and the announcement is timed to cause as much embarrassment to the government as possible. JLR are extremely p!ssed off with the government for effectively killing their diesel sales before they have had time to get viable alternatives in the showrooms.

Even if that was true, is your argument really that its OK to continue to poison us with NOx until they take their own sweet time to get round to producing non toxic exhaust fumes.
But anyway its not true because this government (and previous) have been foot dragging on the subject of polluted air for 20 years. Otherwise they would have had to discontinue diesel years ago, and we'd have electric buses and taxis in major cities, since current diesel versions are some of the worse offenders , worse than private vehicles you've only got to see it with your own eyes.

System

Mercdriver wrote: »

Brexit supporting friends of mine poo poo'd the idea that Brexit would result in jobs moving to eastern europe. I suggested that the chance car manufacturers might have to pay a levy of around 20% would simply make them invest in areas that they wouldn't have to pay this and also have lower wage bills at the same time. Slovakia is a pretty country too - and beer is just over a euro a pint there.

Ford have just reported 000s of job cuts across Europe including the Uk, I suppose that's all because of Bexit as well or maybe it could just be world economics

facade

motorguy wrote: »

Well there we go then. Clearly we shouldnt have voted to leave because Honda have closed up for six days. :eek:

No we shouldn't have voted to leave, because there were no plans in place for leaving, as we were supposed to vote to stay.


Personally, I voted stay because of the certain knowledge that leaving would cost me a fortune to pay all the extra consultants, think tanks, committees and general hangers on who will be getting richer now.


Leave or stay, makes no difference to me, either way prices will go up, services will go down, and I will be worse off.

motorguy

facade wrote: »

No we shouldn't have voted to leave, because there were no plans in place for leaving, as we were supposed to vote to stay.


Personally, I voted stay because of the certain knowledge that leaving would cost me a fortune to pay all the extra consultants, think tanks, committees and general hangers on who will be getting richer now.


Leave or stay, makes no difference to me, either way prices will go up, services will go down, and I will be worse off.

But at lease we wont be paying £80 billion a year or so indefinitely like we are in the EU now for all those consultants, bureaucrats, committees and general hangers on....

Likewise, i cant see my life being particularly +/- either way. However leaving the EU brings change, and change brings opportunity.

AdrianC

AnotherJoe wrote: »

Even if that was true, is your argument really that its OK to continue to poison us with NOx until they take their own sweet time to get round to producing non toxic exhaust fumes.

Woah, hold on...

The current Euro 6 NOx cap is 0.06g/km for petrol, and 0.08g/km for diesel. That has applied to EVERY SINGLE new car since 2015, and many in the year or so before that. For petrols, the NOx cap dropped to that 0.08g/km in 2005.

The NOx "toxic" argument differentiating between petrol and diesel relates to older vehicles, not current or even recent production.