Jaguar Land Rover to cut up to 5,000 jobs

motorguy

AdrianC wrote: »

Blimey, I missed that. When did that happen?

Oops.

Corrected.

motorguy

Gloomendoom wrote: »

That's what I heard too. From within JLR.

Brexit is a convenient scapegoat and the announcement is timed to cause as much embarrassment to the government as possible. JLR are extremely p!ssed off with the government for effectively killing their diesel sales before they have had time to get viable alternatives in the showrooms.

Yes, i fully expect every down turn or failure for the next 20 years by anybody to be Because Brexit.

motorguy

AdrianC wrote: »

How do you square that with 20% of their sales being in the US - an almost exclusively petrol market? 2018 saw record sales for them there.
And it's not a Euro-approval issue, either, because their ranges and sales in some European markets, notably Scandinavia, are primarily petrol.

Presumably the subtext was JLR UK.

forgotmyname

Pay someone in the UK £8+ per hour or pay someone in India £8 a day?

Decisions decisions....

Daughter fell over yesterday, Im sure that was because of Brexit.

AdrianC

motorguy wrote: »

A [STRIKE]chinese[/STRIKE] indian company taking over JLR has absolutely no need to keep production in the UK.

Well, yes. China, India, same difference, right...?

JLR were bought by BMW in 1994, then by Ford in 2000, before Tata in 2008. Over that time - and especially under Tata ownership they've massively increased in size.

motorguy wrote: »

Presumably the subtext was JLR UK.

The model range is global. The engines are Euro6 compliant and type approved for European markets. There's no RHD/petrol engine issue. There's no reason at all why they can't sell petrols here.

andrewf75

motorguy wrote: »

Yes, i fully expect every down turn or failure for the next 20 years by anybody to be Because Brexit.

Indeed, but just as remainers will try and link everything to Brexit, leavers will deny that anything is.

Swings and roundabouts.

motorguy

AdrianC wrote: »

Well, yes. China, India, same difference, right...?

Oh !!!! off Adrian. I made a mistake, admitted it and corrected it. Which is more than you ever do.

motorguy

andrewf75 wrote: »

Indeed, but just as remainers will try and link everything to Brexit, leavers will deny that anything is.

Swings and roundabouts.

Well once we leave theres no point whinging about it, we just need to get on with it.

motorguy

AdrianC wrote: »

The model range is global. The engines are Euro6 compliant and type approved for European markets. There's no RHD/petrol engine issue. There's no reason at all why they can't sell petrols here.

It is yes. However in the context of what Gloomendoom was saying about being in the new development centre and making that comment i assume he was referring to JLR UK taking that view.

Theres no petrol engine variant "issue" other than whilst people dont want diesels they are reluctant to buy petrols. Other companies have invested heavily in hybrid & electric models. JLR seem to have been caught on the hop.

andrewf75

motorguy wrote: »

Well once we leave theres no point whinging about it, we just need to get on with it.

I agree, but our entire economy will go through a long period of change and a lot of stuff will be "because of Brexit". It may be tedious for some people but that's the reality. People voted for a massive change, it isn't going to be done and dusted in a few years never to be mentioned again.