Ideal logic boiler and Hive query

kev2009

Hi,

I have a ideal logic combi 24 boiler, which has a programmer on the front at the bottom which I was told was an additional item.

I’m consider next year maybe changing to Hive so I can adjust temperature etc when not at home.

Can this be done? Concern is programmer on front of boiler and suspect hive is different shape and size. Therefore not fitting.

Thanks

Kev

J_B

We have Hive
There are three bits to the system
1. A controller that is wired into the boiler - ours is screwed onto the wall beside the boiler
2. The wireless thermostat - glued to the wall somewhere that can connect wirelessly to 1 & 3
3. the bit that plugs (must be hard wired) into the router

kev2009

Thanks, yes aware of 3 bits. Concern is the controller, how will it be connected as programmer is effectively in the boiler.

Kev

Alex1983

You will have 2 options, leave it there and set it to 24hrs a day and then use the hive to do the temperature and timings or disconnect it but from memory I think on the logics you need the plug that was on the boiler originally to plug back into the PCB.

Murmansk

I've got an Ideal Logic + 24 combi boiler and it works fine with Hive - the installation involved setting the primitive mechanical timer in the boiler to be on all the time and installing the control unit next to the boiler. The old wired room thermostat was disconnected.

The new control unit turns the boiler on and off now

kev2009

Thanks, maybe I’m better off leaving as is then considering everything I’ve heard implies once boiler is 7 years old it will be dreamed uneconomical to repair so maybe I will wait till I need a new boiler and get it all done together. It was just an idea that it would of been useful to have but might leave it.

Kev

southcoastrgi

You could use the hive with your existing boiler & then with your new boiler when you get it

lewishardwick

I have an Ideal boiler (not the same model admittedly). I have a Hive thermostat. The timer on the boiler is set to permanently on so the controller/schedule takes care of the rest.

It should be pretty easy to set up, you just need to find the wires from the current thermostat and connect to that.

The Hive instructions are pretty clear. I managed to DIY install mine without muhh issue.

kev2009

Hi all,

Thanks for replies. My currently boiler is just over 3 years old so *touch wood* its been no issues and hopefully will continue to be trouble free for many years.

I'm not sure of the implications of leaving the timer on the boiler to permanently on, does that effectively cost more as its permanently on? I would have thought the wires would have been removed from the programmer and then connected to the HIVE unit? The programmer would be redundant but left in place with no wires connected to it so as not to leave a hole in the front of the boiler?

I seen other boilers where the programmer is on the wall etc so makes it easier to remove and replace with HIVE but mine isn't like that so hence I might just leave as is and whenever it does go wrong or become too costly to repair, look to replace it and get one suitable for Hive and get Hive fitted at the same time. No doubt by then, Hive will be on a higher version etc.

Thanks

Kev

Typhoon2000

There are no implication of leaving the built mechanical timer permanently on ( other than it will be less likely to fail) and it will not cost more. On the contrary if hooked up to a Hive it will cost you less.

It you are using a new boiler without those old fashion built in controls, you would have to leave it ‘on’ all the time and let it be controlled by an external programmer or Hive ( which is the same thing with the addidition of being able to control wirlesslessly and over the internet as well.

southcoastrgi

Atm you have a built in programmer/timer & a room stat, hive is both in one unit, so you leave the built in programmer switched perm on & control the heating times & temp via the hive