Grievance/Sexual Harassment

Ergates

Samsung_Note2 wrote: »

Sorry but on the face of it id say your over reacting...as you say he was taking photos of everyone,maybe the photos are for work,maybe he was asked to take them.

You could quiet easily have said "Thank you but please do not take my photo" and ended that straight away.

Regards staring..maybe your friend/person next to you was/is more attractive and he stole a few glances of a pretty/handsome person.

With the context that the OP has already made a formal complaint about the manager *and* had it upheld, we can safely ignore your "maybe"s.

Even *if* the managers behaviour at the party wasn't part of his previous pattern of harassment (which seems somewhat unlikely) it would still be monumentally stupid of him to have acted in that way given what has already happened. Pro-tip: If you've been the subject of a successful sexual harassment complaint at work - stay the hell away from the other person at the Christmas party. Don't give them cause to think you're at it again.

Comms69

Ergates wrote: »

With the context that the OP has already made a formal complaint about the manager *and* had it upheld, we can safely ignore your "maybe"s.

Even *if* the managers behaviour at the party wasn't part of his previous pattern of harassment (which seems somewhat unlikely) it would still be monumentally stupid of him to have acted in that way given what has already happened. Pro-tip: If you've been the subject of a successful sexual harassment complaint at work - stay the hell away from the other person at the Christmas party. Don't give them cause to think you're at it again.

Except clearly that’s upto the employer; and they didn’t feel such measures were warranted

Samsung_Note2

gomer wrote: »

Precisely - she's giving very mixed messages by saying one thing then turning up and sitting on a desk right next to him like nothing has happened.

Sorry Gomer..whilst i agree with most of your posts,this one i think you've got it wrong.

I dont think its mixed messages...i think the OP is just full of stories that dont make sense and seems confused.

This thread is just painfull...the story or stories are just lame.

Ergates

theoretica wrote: »

Would you post up a photo of someone who had a grievance against you for harassment?

Would you *take* a photo of someone who had a grievance against your for harassment? Or would you, perhaps, leave them alone and stay well away from them.

Samsung_Note2

Ellestories wrote: »

I do want to clarify that at work we do have a uniform code. I was wearing my uniform top, and I took it off but underneath I was wearing a long sleeved top and sat on the desk next to him. I do not see a black long sleeved top innapropiate.
And on the staff party, I didn’t originally want to go but was told I should by my friends. I agree with Miriamac, that’s exactly how I feel, why did he have to take the photo, what’s he going to do with it? That’s my problem, he didn’t have to take any photo of me but he did which makes me question his actions. I just wanted to enjoy the night with my friends.

But you sat on the desk next to him...sorry but this is more and more like a very poorly written novel.

Quite obvious you are just seeking attention,thats fine but please for the love of god make the stories believable :rotfl:

Ergates

Ellestories wrote: »

I do think that I should not have taken my top off I admit that was my fault of which I do take full responsibility for, that wasn’t investigated into however the other things that I have stated did.

Assuming by "taking my top off" you mean an outer layer and not your blouse then:

Nonsense. Not your fault. Doesn't excuse his behaviour *at all*. Ignore the people on here saying you're giving "mixed signals" - they're just trying to come up with reasons as to why this guy isn't harassing you. Maybe they're worried about how their own behaviour at work might be interpreted - who knows.

Ergates

Samsung_Note2 wrote: »

But you sat on the desk next to him...sorry but this is more and more like a very poorly written novel.

Quite obvious you are just seeking attention,thats fine but please for the love of god make the stories believable :rotfl:

Sitting on someone's desk isn't a come on, and you seem strangely, almost suspiciously, invested in "proving" this isn't a case of sexual harassment. Makes me wonder why.

gomer

Ergates wrote: »

Sitting on someone's desk isn't a come on.

No, but this isn't just anyone's desk though. It is a desk that places her directly next the alleged perpetrator. An unusual choice of seats in the circumstances I'm sure you'll agree?

jonnygee2

So you took one of your layers off then sat on a desk next to him? Next to the man you claim is sexually harassing you? Do you not wonder if you may possibly be giving off mixed signals at all?

A woman taking off a layer of warm clothing and sitting at her desk is not any kind of 'signal'. It certainly does not signal that it is okay to make comments on her breasts.

If someone feels they need to wear extra clothing to avoid men around her commenting on her breasts there is obviously a serious problem.

Ergates

gomer wrote: »

No, but this isn't just anyone's desk though. It is a desk that places her directly next the alleged perpetrator. An unusual choice of seats in the circumstances I'm sure you'll agree?

Without context no. If this was OPs manager, then she may still have to interact with this person at work. This might involve, at times, speaking to them in person, which generally involves being in close proximity to them.

Also, it's irrelevant. Someone sitting on a desk next to you doesn't give you free reign to make inappropriate comments about their breasts. The manager is an adult. The manager knows what is and isn't appropriate behaviour in the workplace. The manager is responsible for their own behaviour.