If there is a second referendum ...

Theophile

wunferall wrote: »

Time's up.

Both sides have to agree an extension to Article 50 (do you honestly believe that all 27 EU countries will quickly agree?)

What part of

"European Court of Justice rules UK can unilaterally revoke Article 50"

didn't you understand? :rotfl:

https://news.sky.com/story/european-court-of-justice-rules-uk-can-unilaterally-revoke-article-50-and-halt-brexit-11576865


Hard times for the hard brexit acolytes.
There's no majority for it anywhere in parliament, the ERG extremists have been put back in their box and the ECJ has just provided the necessary input for a temporary suspension of Art.50.


Excellent.

Theophile

ukcarper wrote: »

Well I suppose they were not concerned about our position within EU as they thought we would be out. The people who should of thought about it are the 544 MPs who voted for referendum.

They voted for an advisory, non-binding referendum.

lisyloo

LHW99 wrote: »

I wish

I accept the vote but if we (remainers) feel this is a bad decision then why should we keep quiet about our concerns?

That’s a bit like saying you don’t want debate on a discussion forum or worse you don’t think opposition is healthy.

ukcarper

Theophile wrote: »

They voted for an advisory, non-binding referendum.

Irrelevant if they believe it is so detrimental they should not have held it, secondly 498 of those voted to trigger article 50.

kabayiri

BobQ wrote: »

I would. All I am saying is REMAIN means no change but needs no explanation. I agree the EU will evolve whether we are in or out but the REMAIN vote was to influence from within and that was quite clear

We have diminished influence going forward, whatever happens.

That is quite clear.

Recent events have demonstrated that the other EU states do not believe in the UK commitment to the project.

Listen, be honest. Don't pretend to voters that Remaining is going to maintain anything. It has no guarantees. I suspect the rebate will go, and the push for Euro adoption to get much stronger.

movilogo

Any new referendum should have 2 clear options :-

a) fully IN
b) fully OUT

The 1st referendum had very clear options - IN and OUT.

OUT means leaving single market, customs union etc.

There is no public mandate for seeking "deals" from EU.

Just because establishments did not like the LEAVE outcome, they tried to muddle the water by asking "what exactlying out means".

kabayiri

ukcarper wrote: »

Irrelevant if they believe it is so detrimental they should not have held it, secondly 498 of those voted to trigger article 50.

Yep. The decision to trigger A50 should not have been taken without full due diligence beforehand. They delayed A50 long enough.

Also, the election saw the major parties stand on a commitment to implement Brexit.

Those against Brexit could easily have chosen LibDem...but they obviously didn't.

Arklight

We can't suspend A50. This Brexit chaos has been going on long enough. It's crippling our economy. Immigrants (who we need) don't want to come here because Brexit voters in places that don't have any immigrants don't want them in the places that do. There are 3000 fewer nurses this year alone and almost 5000 European doctors are planning on leaving.

Brexit just needs to be cancelled then we can get on with absorbing the Brexiteer tantrums and getting on with life.

Yes they will make a fuss. Some of them might even want to wave placards about and bang on cars.

But if the government is clever they'll just schedule non Brexit day with signing on day, only let them somewhere without step free access and offer a 2-4-1 Pringles promotion in Tesco, and most of them won't go.

movilogo

Brexit just needs to be cancelled then we can get on with absorbing the Brexiteer tantrums and getting on with life.

Yes they will make a fuss. Some of them might even want to wave placards about and bang on cars.

Fixed it for you



No deal Brexit just needs to go ahead then we can get on with absorbing the Remoaners tantrums and getting on with life.

Yes they will make a fuss. Some of them might even want to wave placards about and bang on cars.


We can then have a 2nd referendum after 5 years seeing how UK is performing outside EU.

kabayiri

Arklight wrote: »

...
Brexit just needs to be cancelled then we can get on with absorbing the Brexiteer tantrums and getting on with life.
...

Is that a quote from Darth Juncker and the EU empire?

It's funny how Lefties are naturally autocratic.