The Prepping Thread - A Newer Beginning ;)

MingVase

Scotland in lockdown from midnight. Thank god, now we might slow this down a bit.

srn

Thriftygrifty, my daughter-in-law does exactly the same as you when she brings her daughter home from school but I think it is rare that this happens.  It must become so wearing doing this day in day out and I applaud your commitment.

pineapple

Tomorrow I have to make a 100 mile round trip for an ambulatory oxygen assessment. Praying that my hospital arranged transport is virus free. I'll be fully kitted up plus I've acquired some Taffix https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/taffix-coronavirus-nasal-spray-covid-19553801. Meanwhile the local Trust has issued an alert and is pleading with people only to use A&E in an emergency. The hospital I usually attend is in a coronavirus hotspot and they are reportedly sending ICU patients up to Newcastle. As for the issue of schools, there is huge concern amongst the parents in my online support group. One person has been told outright that Covid would klll her. Imagine being expected to send your child to school in those circumstances. 

If they are going to insist on opening schools, there should at least be some flexibility to allow for individual circumstances.

MingVase

Well pineapple, you just don't send her. You tell the school she is staying off and if they arent happy then tough. They cant take on thousands of parents with a good health reason, courts would throw it out.

greenbee

MingVase said:

Well pineapple, you just don't send her. You tell the school she is staying off and if they arent happy then tough. They cant take on thousands of parents with a good health reason, courts would throw it out.

I think the kids would be perfectly justified in striking... 

pineapple

MingVase said:

Well pineapple, you just don't send her. You tell the school she is staying off and if they arent happy then tough. They cant take on thousands of parents with a good health reason, courts would throw it out.

That's what we told her to do

Nargleblast

We must all do what we need to keep ourselves and each other safe.
Couple of snippets of stupidity seen in the news today.....

Dr Hilary Jones, the TV medic, has been ranting about anti-vaxxer idiots on Twitter saying "We don't need vaccinations! We just need to get a weakened form of the virus, put it in our bodies, then we will make our own antibodies without the need for vaccines!"

If there really are people saying this, then ...
Derrrrr!

The other snippet. People were removed from a hospital when they were found taking photos of empty hospital corridors and posting them on social media as "proof" that hospitals are not busy.

Hospital corridors are now very quiet. For one thing, outpatient appointments are mostly carried out over the phone, so that's several hundred people not coming  into hospital for appointments. Secondly, hospital visiting is banned except under exceptional circumstances, eg if someone is dying, or if a patient with severe learning disabilities needs a carer with them, just two examples I can think of. If a hospital has 600 patients, and 550 of those patients normally would get one visitor a day (many get more than that) then that's 550 less people you have wandering around the corridors once or maybe twice a day. Yes, the corridors will be quiet, it's what's going on behind the doors in those corridors that matters.

Oh well, nowt so queer as folk. 

wondercollie

Yes, it's quiet in my hospital as well.  Outpatients are only seeing fresh fractures or complex dressings, with a lot of the more routine stuff being given over to homecare nurses.  Surgery is down, but in reality if it's Cancer or urgent it's done.  It's finding beds for the patient post op that's the problem.  Our ICU has overflowed into the OR's recovery rooms (space for machinery is there), so all preop patients go straight into their theatre rather than waiting in a holding area on stretchers, then do their "recovery time" in what used to be the preop holding area.
It sounds terrible but most nurses I work with are relieved that visiting has been drastically curtailed.  If you are in for a day surgery, you don't need visitors.  If you are expected to stay less than two days, you really don't need visitors.
We literally tell our incoming surgical patients to have their family bring them to the door, keep their parkas and winter wear and send them in (less to get lost in the moving around the building) and to bring that stuff back in 48 hours or less when they pick up their patient.  The longer stays (think Whipples, Prostates, and other Cancers) are the ones who seem to have the least concerns about visitors.  We think they are just relieved to be getting their surgery.

Wash your hands and wear the mask.

grassgirl

This is so refreshing - I thought I was the only one! A shower as soon as I get in, same for my lad - haven’t seen my him up close since all this began as he was school and I work in an office and regret is harder to bear than keeping will power and losing a bit of time. 

I take my hat off to you - mine is 16 in April. We had a big chat, I told him he was staying off an extra week to see how school coped - there were no online lessons from March to June! so didn’t really trust them with the testing idea..
unsure when his mocks will be, if any, we are lucky he pulled his socks up at home in the time, only RE to work on for a decent grade now. 😅 

Thriftygifty said:

That's the thing, how many people who will have the vaccine will see it as I am immune back to normal now and then spread it about, people will very easily slip back into old habits. The amount of heated conversations I have had with my Mum at the start of all this not to go anywhere that you don't need to just because you fancy it, everyone will be everywhere and there will be a clear divide.

The whole children debate makes me so angry, all you hear from PM the risk to children is very low yet he ignores what others are actually saying that the risk is to their families and teachers, don't even get me started on Kirsty Allsop, I feel a bit thrown under the bus with regards to school.  DS is 5 it is very difficult dodging the parents getting him into school, I time it so that we get there 5 mins before school starts as most people will have gone by then, I drill it into the children before we get out of the car to not touch any surfaces on the way in, then at pickup I tell middle son not to touch said 5 yr old, we hand sanitise before we get in the car, he gets undressed in the porch everything from school is left in the porch and he gets straight in the shower to wash anything off, his hair is washed everyday and clean clothes every day.  This is very stressful with 3 small children, and 5yr old is really tired after school, I feel so cruel making him do all of this but what choice do I have?  The thing that shocked me was that those who were key workers children at the start were told to please wash all uniform every day. Come Sept and no longer told to do that, I know of quite a few in DS class who only have one school jumper for the whole week, uniform is expensive.  Then yesterday whilst looking at the school website I see a photo of DS class with everyones coats hanging next to each other/on top of each other crammed in, and yet schools are safe and not spreading the virus?  Would you hang your coat on top of your colleagues coat?  

3secondmemory

wondercollie said:

Yes, it's quiet in my hospital as well.  Outpatients are only seeing fresh fractures or complex dressings, with a lot of the more routine stuff being given over to homecare nurses.  Surgery is down, but in reality if it's Cancer or urgent it's done.  It's finding beds for the patient post op that's the problem.  Our ICU has overflowed into the OR's recovery rooms (space for machinery is there), so all preop patients go straight into their theatre rather than waiting in a holding area on stretchers, then do their "recovery time" in what used to be the preop holding area.
It sounds terrible but most nurses I work with are relieved that visiting has been drastically curtailed.  If you are in for a day surgery, you don't need visitors.  If you are expected to stay less than two days, you really don't need visitors.
We literally tell our incoming surgical patients to have their family bring them to the door, keep their parkas and winter wear and send them in (less to get lost in the moving around the building) and to bring that stuff back in 48 hours or less when they pick up their patient.  The longer stays (think Whipples, Prostates, and other Cancers) are the ones who seem to have the least concerns about visitors.  We think they are just relieved to be getting their surgery.

Wash your hands and wear the mask.

My son tells me that everything takes twice as long and twice as much space with the Covid restrictions in place at his hospital and it’s taken some time to find a replacement for him so he can move to a Covid ward permenantly. 

He has a lot of experience working with vented patients but the main difference is that most of his patients were not conscious. 

It’s a very different picture with many people sitting up, awake but needing a lot of breathing support. What struck him most is that, while recovery rates are good, it’s how long it takes to recover and this will be the sticking point in the next few weeks. 

I specifically asked him what was happening with children with COVID-19 and he said that, as yet, there aren’t any. I hope some people find that encouraging and, now the schools are closed in the main until mid-Feb, we can really get a grip and stop the spread.