The Prepping Thread - A Newer Beginning ;)

jamanda

Some of us are still on fairly basic after all these years.

[Deleted User]

I appreciate that because we're retired we're in a different position to all of those of us who have jobs and children to look after too but I don't think we will be changing anything or lessening our vigilance over any aspect of avoiding the likelihood of catching the virus in our lives.  We'll vehemently maintain the distancing and sadly stay distanced from the family for the foreseeable future and I really am worried that in 2 to 3 weeks time we may be seeing huge figures of infection and deaths in England as a direct result of the easing that's being allowed as of Wednesday. It's not a prospect I can view with anything other than huge sadness.

GreyQueen

jamanda said:

Some of us are still on fairly basic after all these years.

Me, too!

Beats me why people don't install an ad blocker like G hostery which stops ads and trackers. I've used it for years and never see adverts. It also blocks some discussion threads powered by Dis qis on certain websites, but you can use it to Trust Website or Restrict Website by clicking on the Ghost ery icon when that site is loaded. Gho stery on top of DDGo (which doesn't track you either) is my way to go.

I'm always amused when people get over-excited about being tracked by their mobile phones. You could always leave your phone at home if you were off doing something where you didn't want your whereabouts known. The way the discussion is phrased, you'd think that the phone was as much a part of a person's body as their hand or foot.

In personal life, I use one of the retro button phones. It is internet enabled, but not used for that. I do have a smartphone issued by my employer for work use. If anyone wants to track that, good luck to them, it lives on my desk 24/7.

annieb64

I think some people do think their phones are part of their bodies! We walk along the local trail every morning and lots of people seem to be chatting on their phones all the time. I do find it sad when parents seem to be ignoring  their children while talking on the phone.

herlig

I think it is difficult for many people to understand fear unless they have experienced the utter helplessness that is experienced through the body when fear hits.

Some of us are fearful of our lives right now. Those that aren't fearful of their lives are perfectly entitled to fear what they find shakes their inner core. There will be a lack of understanding and even compassion but what we're seeing now is meanness, a quickness to react and judge and the start of a real streak of unpleasantness across platforms within society. 

It's also hit the preparing thread, sadly. 

[Deleted User]

Isn't life odd? all my adult life I've been aware that pandemic situations can happen and for most of the latter part of my life I've been aware we were overdue for something like this according to science.  What I hadn't factored into my imaginings of what it might be was actually having to live through it, all I ever focused on was living 'after' it and how old skills and knowledge would be useful if technology wasn't available because we had no power supply.  Living through this is the most perilous happening in my 72 years and it's frankly terrifying in it's worldwide enormity, nowhere spared and no one safe, no cure, no answers, no drugs, no treatment that works but not even in my darkest moments 'no hope'.  I hope that one day there will be a time when covid is no longer in the world even if we can't find an effective vaccine I hope that with sense, co-operation, management and determination people can survive to a time when the disease is eradicated.  I hope to be alive to see it.....

-taff

For those worrying about browsers etc, either install an ad blocker like AdBlock Plus or use a different browser, like Tor.

prepareathome

This is a prep query but also a food one so I was unsure where to post.
I managed to get an order from Iceland today ( 3rd one since March) its the only place I buy online from usually one big shop then a couple of small ones and fill in the gaps at Aldi or Sainsbobs but of course had to do thigs differently till now.  I made the most of this order for store cupboard items rather than freezer items. and got most which are still now sitting in their bags waiting to be cleaned but all fridge and freezer items are done and away. 

  I asked for two tins of corned beef and instead was sent to large packets of fresh corned beef.  Anyone any idea if I can freeze it as I am only one who likes it as it comes - usually use it in corned beef hash or similar for the family -  and even then one big pack is more than I could eat before use by date.  I don't really have the room in freezers ( have a chest and a small tabletop one that lives on to of my freeze as could not find a suitable size fridge freezer years ago when the old one died) to add any more meals but might have by use-by date as trying to eat out of the freezer than cupboards to build up for winter again. 

 I have cupboard envy dandy-candy, my whole house sadly is small ( no idea what the square foot is like Americans would put,  keep meaning to find out how to work it out), so not much room to store anywhere as only two built-in cupboards in the house - one in living room in an alcove and a very, very tiny pantry which faces south and used to get damp so we had to have it all sealed up on outside so cannot be used as one anymore, so its always a choice room to move about or have places to store things. 

cornishchick

well, I have finally cleared a cupboard of stuff. including a foreman grill that when I went to use if for the first time in ages has lost the non-stick and smoked like it was choosing a new pope. so that's been relegated to the future tip pile. in the place of the stuff, I have crafted some rolling tinned food storage from cardboard boxes ( I have lots.. ) tape and glue to store like cans with like, looks neat, I can see at a glance what I have , new additions go in the top and roll down. I have taken advantage of the mortgage holiday to reinvest that money in some futures. My mortgage is pretty low anyway so the extra will work out at a low cost too. seemed a good idea. I am going to try dehydrating a bag of mixed frozen veg to see if that works, means a store of veg to add to meals that isn't relying on the freezer. while decluttering I have found some olive oil soap someone brought me back from Greece. so I've put that on with my current hygiene preps and will add to these as and when I can. these include toothpaste, loo rolls, soap, shampoos, cleaning products. I've been trying to keep track of the things I have used and or the things I really wish I had in stock during the last 6 weeks and use that to inform my plans and stocks. I will do what I can when I can. I can only control my part of the world and How I react to it.

Onebrokelady

MoneySeeker1 said:

Drugs and treatments may emerge - and let's all hope so.

But I think the chances of a vaccine are slim and the chances of many people having one (if it is invented) are even slimmer. I've seen the "technical" info. on what such a vaccine might/probably would look like. Literally - as in a human-made design that would show up on the screen of a smartphone and indicate vaccination status - or otherwise.

A very very dangerous development imo - as many of us would never scan up on said smartphone with the appropriate screen picture of obviously human-made markings just underneath our skin. The worrying thing about not having "the Mark" being that there's a good chance we would be Locked Out of many things in society (ie not allowed access to this, not allowed access to that and basically frozen out of many aspects of Our Lives). This would be a huge problem - even for those of us that couldn't be prevented from getting our income (as it's pension or some other such non-human-contact type way) and couldn't be prevented from having a home to live in (as we own our own - and don't have to rent one).

So - it would be absolutely essential if a vaccine ever does emerge (which I doubt) for it to be capable of being administered in a way that would NOT have visible evidence to show either way - so that no-one could be checked with a smartphone or the like and then Locked Out of society for not having it.

From this - it's very clear that indeed it would be much the best thing if a vaccine does NOT ever get invented - IF there was going to be any sort of "marker" or documentation or any other 'proof' provided as to who had had the vaccine - and who hadn't. So it would be better for Society as a whole never to have such a vaccine - if a vaccine being available meant a huge swathe of the population being "sent to Coventry/Locked Out of much of their lives" because they'd chosen not to have it.

But why would you choose not to have it 🙀