The Prepping Thread - A Newer Beginning ;)

jk0

Si_Clist said:

American preppers seem to be into freezing flour (and canning it!), but I guess it's a question of how long exactly are you thinking of?  Our current stash of wholemeal spelt flour's BBE is September this year, but we know from experience it'll still be perfectly OK next Easter.  And that's stored in the dry, at room temperature, in plastic bags.

Don't forget that all being well this year's harvest will be milled August/September, and that flour will have at least a year's date on it ...

Thanks. I was hoping to leave it in there indefinitely if possible, to save all the too'ing & fro'ing.

singlestep

I'm getting a bit frustrated with the news where the message seems to be  that Denmark's schools are back and managing, ours will be fine too. The one they just showed, the class size was 20 halved to ten in rather big classrooms. In my experience, class groups are larger and classrooms are smaller than what I just saw.  I agree that it's utter madness. Teachers seem to be getting it in the neck a bit - what about all the other adult workers in a school? Non-teaching roles generally aren't well-paid and people who fill them might in some areas match the groups said to be most disproportionally impacted. Not to mention family members of all concerned. I'm sure other workplaces have similar concerns, however.

My personal anxieties, other than the health of family members and friends and colleagues is that I am in limbo with regards to my living situation. Rightly so - I can't move in the middle of a shutdown, nor should anyone be put at risk to make it possible.  However, my capacity to store preps is somewhat curtailed - nowhere to grow anything, or try to since I've never had a garden.  Limited room to store anything.  List-making is still possible, though

Rowan9

Just popped on with support for Mothernerd - she is a kind and hardworking member of MSE community and always hugely supportive of others

Onebrokelady

-taff said:

dandy-candy said:

mothernerd said:

Relaxing of lockdown rules we went into lockdown at 200 deaths a day, at 600 deaths a day some of us are now coming out of it (with varying degrees of 'choice' - furlough rate is reducing to 60% of pay, down from 80%. It has been extended to October, so there could possibly be further reductions with it being down to zero by October).

Furlough is still 80% not 60%, and there were 210 deaths in the whole UK yesterday not 600. Why dont you fact check more of your comments before posting lies and disinformation? In a prepping situation you are the worst sort of person, you seek to spread fear and panic. I could pull apart the rest of your post but frankly i cant be bothered. You are a troll

I think you need to check your facts. From the  Gov covid statistic site. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Daily number of COVID-19 associated UK deaths

627

Number of additional deaths on Tuesday 12 May 2020

Glad I only got the 2 and the 7 the wrong way round

singlestep

Even if it were 210 deaths yesterday, that would be bad enough and about as many as there were at the start of lockdown, it's still 210 too many.  Reported deaths are disproportionally low after the weekend and the subsequent figure higher as a result.
Or have I misunderstood?

elaine241

I think the posters are both right, typo excepted. There could have been 210 in hospital settings and 627 in all settings that mentioned Covid 19 on the death certificate as a cause of /or part cause of death. Either way the numbers are still high whichever statistic you look at, remembering that their are people and families behind every one.:-(
Btw am I going mad? I am sure there was a long detailed reply this morning to my slightly wobbly /worried post. I was going to re read it as I found it helpful and had some interesting thoughts and ideas. Has it been deleted? Please put it back up if at all possible I am sure it was warmly received by the majority of people on here!

MingVase

From EdinburghLive:

"Police Officers in Cumbria have had an incredibly busy weekend after having to stop hundreds of people trying to cross the border into Scotland.

Despite Scotland adhering to stricter lockdown rules than England, people from as far as London have been showing up at the Scottish Borders for no apparent reason.

Cumbria Police revealed that they were called out over 100 times from Friday to Sunday to deal with people from as far as London coming to 'explore the Lake District' or trying to cross into Scotland."

---- So it isn't enough to risk their own lives, they have to drive 400 miles and risk ours too?

elaine241

We have the same border worries here. Wales is shut but they were streaming in from England at the weekend. Some wag put a picture of the Welsh regiment from the Zulu film all holding rifles, with the comment "live at the Severn bridge!"

[Deleted User]

I don't like the word troll when applied to either someone making a genuine mistake in posting or posting hat they think is the right number and it turns out to not accurate.  Those are not intentionally done to cause mayhem and spread unhappiness but a troll will aim to post for precisely those reasons.  We all are preppers, we all are allowed to make the odd mistake, God knows I do because I'm only human.  That old adage about those without sin casting the first stone is an appropriate thought to keep in our minds along with the fact that these people are singing from the same hymn sheet as we are.....they aren't enemies!

pollyanna_26

mothernerd was correct. The pubished plan was reduction to 60%' The chancellor had to do a quick u turn after a backlash. We can never be totally sure of the total death rate due to not factoring some in but she was correct on the published figures.

I expect this post may disappesr too but a couple of days ago No 10 comms had to put out a statement correcting the PMs speech when he spoke of Cholera rather than Covoid. Water UK also needed to make clear Covoid was not present in the UK water supply contary to the PMs statement.

It isn't at all reassuring that many people only follow the mainstream media . As for using reception ,yr1,2 and 6 children to test the waters on a phased return to school. As a former infant teacher and mother of 4 thankfully now adult offspring it would have been over my dead body. Infants need the most bodily contact as they settle into school . If I had a £ for every sobbing child I've sat on my knee throughout a lesson I'd be very wealthy. Impossible to organise social distancing effectively. Many children who haven't been in nursery or pre school struggle with  the transition from home and a full school day. I know many involved in chidcare and education and none of them thinks this a good idea.

polly