The 1pMinute Mobile Calls is not actually true :-

PBA

OK, OP is wrong, but he's kinda raising a fair point. It seems a bit ridiculous that, say, 0844721 numbers are 1p a min, but 0844875 numbers are 5p. And in order to confirm exactly which rate you'll be paying you have to wade through a massive document, BT's price list runs to 44 pages and Virgin's is 80! I just keep it simple, use the work phone and it costs nothing...

thesaint

mobilejunkie wrote: »

I have to say that 0844 numbes ARE effectively a "premium rate" from a mobile since they aren't included in the bundle.

You are correct to preface your statement with "I have to say".
This absolves you of the responsibility for your statement to be correct.

mobilejunkie

Anything which costs more than normal use is premium as far as I'm concerned; but I recall you don't regard 084/7 numbers as premium even though they are not only absent from all bundle allowances (land-line as well as mobiles) BUT charged at a higher rate than the so-called "local" and "national" rate numbers they are touted as. Funny how the companies trying to force people to use them also take a slice from the cost of each call. I further recall that when you were a postmand you thought it fine not to bother getting signatures for recorded delivery items. As far as I'm concerned you were wrong about that too!

thesaint

mobilejunkie wrote: »

Anything which costs more than normal use is premium as far as I'm concerned; but I recall you don't regard 084/7 numbers as premium, even though they are not only absent from all bundle allowances (land-line as well as mobiles), BUT charged at a higher rate than the so-called "local" and "national" rate numbers they are touted as.

I understand and respect that "As far as you are concerned" they are.
I am talking about 'Facts' not feelings, understandings, wishes or anything else emotive.

mobilejunkie wrote: »

Funny how the companies trying to force people to use them also take a slice from the cost of each call.

This has no bearing on whether it is classed as a premium rate number or not.

mobilejunkie wrote: »

I further recall that when you were a postman you thought it fine not to bother getting signatures for recorded delivery items.
As far as I'm concerned you were wrong about that too!

Not sure what this has to do with premium rate numbers, care to give me a clue, however tenuous?

mobilejunkie

I'm not sure what your point is with regard to the 08 numbers; we've had this discussion before - when despite my telling people repeatedly that cpw DID still include them in their bundles you seemed to prefer what it said on the label i.e. that they weren't. I wasn't alone in describing 084/7 numbers for precisely what they are, regardless of labelling. Personally, a label is marketing; the contents and the product itself is what counts.

What the slice the companies using these numbers get is whe whole point of what they are and WHY they are premium rate; if they weren't organisations wouldn't adopt them and people would not be forced to pay to use them (unlike geographical numbers) and such companies couldn't rip people off with them.

As for the post; it is merely an observation that you seem to accept things which should not be the case whilst saying my description of 08 numbers is incorrect. I tend to call a spade a spade and not whatever the marketing department would like to dress it up as - just as if I'm paying for something I don't like to be mislead.

thesaint

Like I said, I am not talking about labels, contents and marketing, I am talking about facts.

I have never commented on your argument that CPW included 0844/0870 etc in their bundles.

I have only commented on whether they are premium rate or not.

If they are included or not is not the measure of them being premium rate, so your point is invalid.

mobilejunkie

Then I guess you buy the label and not the product! I think the "fact" lies in the latter and the former is garbage. Further, fact they aren't included was only one part of my argument - not the only measure of what is fact and what is garbage.

jrrowleyws

PBA wrote: »

I just keep it simple, use the work phone and it costs nothing...

Lucky i'm not your line manager. I'd fire you!

!!!!!!

Quentin

There's a jobsworth in every organisation.

jhp

mobilejunkie wrote: »

Anything which costs more than normal use is premium as far as I'm concerned

So how can a 0844 1p a minute call from a landline be regarded as a premium rate then,when its cheaper then a BT Peak local/national rate call.