Stopping on a roundabout

tho_2

The location is probably key. for instance the roundabout at Stansted is in a urban clearway, and has signs specifically saying no stopping. Doesn't stop people trying to avoid paying £3.50 or actually going to the free drop off and so they just stop mid roundabout, complete with baggage unload, while everyone weaves around them. In that case deserve everything they get.

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Tilt wrote: »

Bus stops are usually positioned so that they don't infringe on traffic flow and are sited with the approval of the respective local authority.

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Round here they put mini islands alongside bus stops sited on the road to prevent cars overtaking a stationary bus.


I assume someone from The Council noticed traffic actually making progress and decided to put a stop to it.

AdrianC

facade wrote: »

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Round here they put mini islands alongside bus stops sited on the road to prevent cars overtaking a stationary bus.

I assume someone from The Council noticed traffic actually making progress and decided to put a stop to it.

You don't remember the 1970s Public Information Films, do you?

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AdrianC wrote: »

You don't remember the 1970s Public Information Films, do you?

I'm only alive today because of Donald Pleasence


I do remember when Willy Weasel got run over by some maniac who

1) Didn't reduce speed when it was blindingly obvious that Willy and Harry were running into the road chasing each other round lampposts
2) Appeared to be the same car & driver who ran Willy over at high speed when he ran across behind the Ice Cream van.


In both cases it appeared that the driver was blameless.


How times change

casseus

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

Your right, Highway code is code of practice, it contains some law and is defined as a MUST= Lawfull instructions, should=guidance in the code. Its a manipulative tool that is used as evidence in cases where the code is in dispute of its meaning, prosecutors are not in favour of doing that as it can back backfire and go down in the office like a gastric infected fart.


Nagy V West 1965 is the standard set for willful obstruct.

Carrot007 wrote: »

Is an exit on the roundabout?


Anyhow. Stoppingh on a roundabout is being a tit. No sane person would do it. It people I were picking up stood there I sould expect them to walk to a resonable place or be left.


Random annecdote. I once witnessed a tool stop on the inner lane of the roundabout, get out and make a phone call. And this was the 90s so answering a call would have been fine in the car (as long as not being an idiot, so probably not for them).

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These forums cease to amaze and amuze. Atrix confirm the OP's question about the highway code and joker ere asks if theres an exit on the roundabout quoting Atrix's reply. And the BEST thing it gets 2 thanks!:rotfl:

Ive done a lot of reading, ive never really wanted to post only when I had issues I needed advice on sorting. I mostly read posts in DT and the benefits boards and never bother logging in, but lately im stuck here coz im addicted to the bickering and the intense EGO bashing that's going on, I already sussed that theres 2 at least 3 EX police on this board and that makes for a show in itsself, policeman have the biggest ego's and always nit pick at everything due to having to do it as an officer scrutinised everything trust no one approach, I seem them PPR all the time in DT its hilarious. How come you guys are left bicker like this and not have any warning at all?

Nothing like a pair of coppers Clashing head to head, willy wanging with measuring tapes!
Better than any benny hill sketch.
I am wind up my myself too ill throw any old thing to an argument to flair up the lions den, but I usually reserve that for facebook. Looks like im going to have to stay longer and regular from now on I got some serious catching up to do with this board, its like EastEnders without the pictures!

Goudy

Car_54 wrote: »

Is that an offence?

Car_54 wrote: »

Sticking with pedantry, it isn't parking but remaining at rest, whether attended or not.

It doesn't matter, parking, stopping to park, loading, unloading, boarding and alighting are acts that can cause an offence under RTA's section 22, leaving a vehicle in a dangerous position.

There is the offence.
And there acts that caused it.

These acts doesn't necessarily mean turning off the engine, getting out, locking it and walking away.
But leaving, as in allowing or causing to remain.

Stopping to park, parking, loading, unloading, boarding and alighting in such away as described are all "acts" that cause the offence.

So by the act of stopping to park, parking, boarding, alighting, loading or unloading in such a position, it is leaving (causing or allowing) a vehicle to remain in a dangerous position, which is an offence.

This RTA section 22 isn't specifically about parking, resting, remaining stationary, boarding or alighting on a roundabout.
The offence is causing or allowing a vehicle to remain in a dangerous position and this can be done with one or more actions, one of such actions is parking or as the OP admits, stopping to board.

In the case of the original question,
"Hi. Can anyone tell me where I can find the law pertaining to "Stopping on a roundabout"?"

I offered my response of RTA's Part 1 Section 22, leaving (causing or allowing) a vehicle in a dangerous position.
At this point the OP had already established the act.
"I stopped to briefly to pick a friend up"
So any reference to other acts that might cause the same offence were used in example as we already knew the act.

As explained in a previous post, this could be ticketed if the circumstances permitted, on other offences, such as stopping to park, load, upload, board or alight on a red route, which is a different offence but would not necessarily be enforced by a police officer.
Red Routes are local Traffic Management Acts and enforced by representatives of the local authority. (TFL)

Car_54

Goudy wrote: »

It doesn't matter, parking, stopping to park, loading, unloading, boarding and alighting are acts that can cause an offence under RTA's section 22, leaving a vehicle in a dangerous position.

There is the offence.
And there acts that caused it.

These acts doesn't necessarily mean turning off the engine, getting out, locking it and walking away.
But leaving, as in allowing or causing to remain.

Stopping to park, parking, loading, unloading, boarding and alighting in such away as described are all "acts" that cause the offence.

So by the act of stopping to park, parking, boarding, alighting, loading or unloading in such a position, it is leaving (causing or allowing) a vehicle to remain in a dangerous position, which is an offence.

This RTA section 22 isn't specifically about parking, resting, remaining stationary, boarding or alighting on a roundabout.
The offence is causing or allowing a vehicle to remain in a dangerous position and this can be done with one or more actions, one of such actions is parking or as the OP admits, stopping to board.

In the case of the original question,
"Hi. Can anyone tell me where I can find the law pertaining to "Stopping on a roundabout"?"

I offered my response of RTA's Part 1 Section 22, leaving a vehicle in a dangerous position.
At this point the OP had already established the act.
"I stopped to briefly to pick a friend up"
So any reference to other acts that might cause the same offence was used in example.

As explained in a previous post, this could be ticketed if the circumstances permitted, on other offences, such as stopping to park, load, upload, board or alight on a red route, which is a different offence but would not necessarily be enforced by a police officer.
Red Routes are local Traffic Management Acts and enforced by representatives of the local authority. (TFL)

Quite so. My point was that you referred to 'parking', which could mislead the OP who was not parking, but had committed the offence simply by stopping.