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Why are some drivers so impatient?

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  • Scrapit
    Scrapit Posts: 2,304 Forumite
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    motorguy wrote: »
    We have, and havent found any particular indication of what you said.

    So give us the post numbers - or retract it.
    No chance. Go find another likeminded troll to bother.
  • Scrapit
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    neilmcl wrote: »
    Funny you should mention him, also strange you know of this guy given you've only joined this month ;)
    It's almost like this is a forum hosted on the internet with public access for all to see....
  • motorguy
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    neilmcl wrote: »
    Funny you should mention him, also strange you know of this guy given you've only joined this month ;)

    That is a VERY interesting observation.

    How would a newbie know ANYTHING of DM? Its been a very long time since that profile existed...
  • Zana2018
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    NBLondon wrote: »
    Sounds like it's quite an awkward junction - parked cars across the T and a bend close by. Do you have a link so we can look at it, please?

    Here's one near me - .
    Imagine you are the silver Peugeot turning right out of a side road onto the South Circular. The big tree limits your view to the right so you have to nose into the traffic to see. Waiting for a gap both sides can be minutes - so you often have to hope for someone to let you in - or drive into the first gap in traffic approaching from the right and wait for a gap in the other side. A nervous driver who doesn't want to do that may well see an impatient one go around them on the left and force their way in to the flow.

    I think to actually get back to point, what would help everyone help you OP, is for you to provide similar details to the above.

    Can you provide a google maps link of the road so everyone can see the width? What is the blind spot caused by the hedge, is it actually a blind spot or are you being too cautious?

    One of the previous posts said something that was quite true, unless it is the same driver behind you everyday, you must be doing something incorrect to annoy different drivers each time. Maybe there is enough space for you to squeeze past, or you could have turned but you missed an opportunity and those behind you get frustrated.

    On a separate note, I am also a cyclist and there are some definite mad and impatient drivers out there. You'll get a mix of people on the road, whether they're alpha-drivers or not. Regardless, you should try be accomodating to make everyones trip (regardless of mode of transport) to be the smoothest and quickest it possibly can be.
  • NBLondon
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    motorguy wrote: »
    Where's all this sexism?
    motorguy wrote: »
    We have, and havent found any particular indication of what you said.

    So give us the post numbers - or retract it.
    Since Scrapit is being bolshie.... In post #41, cubegame described themselves as an Alpha-driver. In subsequent posts #43, #48, NormanCastle responded using the phrase Alpha-Male {As did others - but Norman did it more than once}. Which can be perceived as sexist in two ways a) It assumes cubegame is male which may or may not be the case b) it stereotypes impatient and potentially aggressive drivers as male - when any gender may behave this way. (Probably this is what DoaM already identified).

    There might be some correlation between impatient driving, toxic masculinity and inflated self-importance but it's not universal.
    I need to think of something new here...
  • googler
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    edited 29 October 2018 at 7:22PM
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    Zana2018 wrote: »
    What is the blind spot caused by the hedge, is it actually a blind spot or are you being too cautious?

    I didn't say anything about a hedge. It's a high stone wall which completely obscures the sight line to any parked cars near the entrance to my home street, and which blocks the sightline to any moving cars exiting past those parked cars. There's two lanes, the left typically has parked cars, the right being the only one available for incoming and outgoing traffic

    The parked cars on the main street, and bend to the left beyond them, obscure the oncoming traffic until I'm level with the parked cars. If there's a vehicle exiting my home street, I'd be unable to turn at all, as there's usually parked cars on the left in there, and the right lane is the only one available for incoming and outgoing traffic.


    One of the previous posts said something that was quite true, unless it is the same driver behind you everyday, you must be doing something incorrect to annoy different drivers each time.

    ... or there's a number of chronically impatient drivers around, as I suggested at first.


    Maybe there is enough space for you to squeeze past, or you could have turned but you missed an opportunity and those behind you get frustrated.

    I refer you to my post yesterday regarding the available space, and to the pictures above. In the run-up to this junction, I maintained a steady distance between myself and the traffic in front of me, 30mph, built-up area. I mirrored, signalled, slowed leading up to the junction and prepared to turn, a sequence that took all of 10 seconds, if that. That's a mighty short time for my driving to to get someone frustrated. I think it's reasonable to assume they were frustrated already


    On a separate note, I am also a cyclist and there are some definite mad and impatient drivers out there.

    Exactly my point above ....


    You'll get a mix of people on the road, whether they're alpha-drivers or not. Regardless, you should try be accomodating to make everyones trip (regardless of mode of transport) to be the smoothest and quickest it possibly can be.

    I fail to see what else I could have done to make things go more smoothly. I signalled well in advance, I allowed the vehicle to slow at a reasonable rate, rather than slamming the brakes on at the last minute, and prepared to execute my turn safely.

    Someone suggested that I should be going past my own street to avoid this, and turning back further down the road to come back and execute a left turn. Why should I? I'm the one driving smoothly and safely, paying due attention to other traffic and hazards. I'm not the one cursing at others.
  • Scrapit
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    NBLondon wrote: »
    Since Scrapit is being bolshie.... In post #41, cubegame described themselves as an Alpha-driver. In subsequent posts #43, #48, NormanCastle responded using the phrase Alpha-Male {As did others - but Norman did it more than once}. Which can be perceived as sexist in two ways a) It assumes cubegame is male which may or may not be the case b) it stereotypes impatient and potentially aggressive drivers as male - when any gender may behave this way. (Probably this is what DoaM already identified).

    There might be some correlation between impatient driving, toxic masculinity and inflated self-importance but it's not universal.
    Don't feed the trolls
  • motorguy
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    edited 30 October 2018 at 9:41AM
    NBLondon wrote: »
    Since Scrapit is being bolshie.... In post #41, cubegame described themselves as an Alpha-driver. In subsequent posts #43, #48, NormanCastle responded using the phrase Alpha-Male {As did others - but Norman did it more than once}. Which can be perceived as sexist in two ways a) It assumes cubegame is male which may or may not be the case b) it stereotypes impatient and potentially aggressive drivers as male - when any gender may behave this way. (Probably this is what DoaM already identified).

    There might be some correlation between impatient driving, toxic masculinity and inflated self-importance but it's not universal.

    You really need to look up the definition of sexism - those comments arent sexist. Theres such a thing as being an Alpha-Female, so hardly a surprise if a male person describes themselves or another male as an Alpha-Male.

    If Norman assumed incorrectly that GameCube was male, that doesnt make him sexist, it just makes him wrong.

    And stereotypes =/= sexist.
  • motorguy
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    Scrapit wrote: »
    Don't feed the trolls

    Pot. Kettle. Black.
  • googler
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    FWIW, I noted this morning that when passing the first parked car on the left, I have to cross the centre white line by a foot or two ..... but it seems the discussion has moved away from this.
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