Can I be sacked?

FBaby

What a sad outcome after 16 years of you being happy there and them happy with you if they agreed to promote you.

What outcome did the lack of training had? Surely after 6 months you should have managed to figure it out. Did you make errors and these were pointed hence the feeling you've been bullied and you ending up stressed?

What happened during all the months before you went off sick? Did your manager expressed dissatisfaction with your performance? If so what did they do to guide you to improve it?

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FBaby wrote: »

What a sad outcome after 16 years of you being happy there and them happy with you if they agreed to promote you.

What outcome did the lack of training had? Surely after 6 months you should have managed to figure it out. Did you make errors and these were pointed hence the feeling you've been bullied and you ending up stressed?

What happened during all the months before you went off sick? Did your manager expressed dissatisfaction with your performance? If so what did they do to guide you to improve it?

I know, it does make me sad as 16 years is a long time.

The outcome of the lack of training was I ended up taking twice as long to do the job and would be logging on from home to figure it out and to complete it to the best I could.

She didn't express any dissatisfaction, but she would throw work at me with no explanation. When I confronted her she asked I give it a few more months.

My snappy colleague would often call me over to her desk to show me the parts of the work that I hadn't completed and also used to time how often I went to the loo in the day.

[Deleted User]

Comms69 wrote: »

Just saying it how I see it. Which thread - there's lots.


But let's keep it simple - you're the ones off work; yet i'm the one with issues?...

Clearly you have way too much time on your hands, oh yes I'm the one off work, I almost thought you were too!

Fireflyaway

I know how horrid it is to be in your situation. It happened to me last summer and I chose to resign. The person who was a bully wasn't going to change and although I consulted HR they told me it was my word against hers. I still feel sad that I was the one who was effectively pushed out but I was unhappy to the point I was getting ill.
The longer you are off work the worse you will feel. If you return its going to be to the same situation. It's not great seeing you have been there 16 years but I think I'd leave and get a new job. Maybe try applying for things you wouldn't normally consider? I did and I'm really happy now.
Yes they can sack you. Someone needs to be doing the work and if it's not you they can't wait indefinitely. Unless you agree a return date then eventually they will have to let you go. Up your job hunting so you are prepared.

LilElvis

Deleted_User wrote: »

Thank you for your useful post. I contacted the Union on Monday and am still awaiting to hear from them.

The systems are different from what I used to use, I did ask at the interview if training would be provided and I was assured it would, otherwise I never would have taken the job.

Are you an existing member of the Union and is this the first time you've contacted them regarding your current issues and the bullying allegations? If you've spoken to them previously what did they advise? If you're not already a member then it is very unlikely that they will help.

sangie595

This is either the return of the dilemma bot or a snowflake. OP if you are for real, then I don't like your tone either. If this is how you have approached your employer and colleagues, then it is not surprising that you are having problems. You may not like the advice, but you asked the question- can you be sacked? The answer is yes, and you would be well advised to realise that like the advice or not it is likely to be the only thing standing between you and that dismissal.

You are picking and choosing the advice you like, and I'm guaranteeing you that the advice you like is lovely- but will not save your job or get you another role with the employer. Personally, I don't give a **** what happens to you, or whether you like my advice, because you know what - it's not going to hurt me one little bit whatever happens to you. But it will hurt you.

So your tone isn't going to change the law, it isn't going to keep you in a job, and it isn't going to get you another one. You don't like good advice, then don't ask for it. Unlike your union, we had the courtesy of helping you straight away. Not that you're in the slightest grateful for that.

Cheeky_Monkey

Deleted_User wrote: »

again, I do not care. Unless you have something useful to say, I suggest you stop posting nonsense.

Given your response to some posts, I presume you won't mind then if people 'don't care' if you get the sack either

eschaton

From memory, Janey and similar names have been used by a few fruit cakes on this board before. Or most likely the same fruit cake.

Coincidence?

pmduk

OP, if you came on this site for advice you've had lot's of it, most very good advice.

We live in the real world, what doesn't happen here is the touchy-feely 'your bosses are all brutes' type stuff. Try Mumsnet for that.

NB I can't speak for the quality of their employment advice though.

Guido_Fawkes

Being 'sacked' and being 'dismissed on capability grounds' are different.
To dismiss you on the grounds of 'capability', my understanding is that the company should go through certain steps.

This link might help:

https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?162533-dismiss-on-capability-or-early-retirement-through-ill-health&