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CEL CCC - Directions Questionnaire (Title changed for attention)

HayleyD83
HayleyD83 Posts: 130 Forumite
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edited 19 February 2019 at 3:28PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Background - received a PCN over a year ago For over staying in a sainsburies car park by about 15 mins. I’ve so far ignored all communications from them and now have received the claim form.

The car park is signed However the letters received initially were extremely poor, they did not even state who they were from, no details for appeal procedures just a letter showing two images of my car (not even clearly in a car park so frankly could have been anywhere)

an appeal was lodged but rejected on the grounds of being outside of the appeal period



Any advice would be appreciated
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  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    edited 21 October 2018 at 8:57PM
    edit the above to preserve anonymity, no "MY , ME, MYSELF & I" for starters

    never admit who was to blame in a court case

    what is the name of the parking company ?

    did the keeper complain to the supermarket ?

    what is the DATE OF ISSUE on the claim form

    what are the full POC details ? please write them in full, plus all the charges too


    you say you have read the NEWBIES thread ?


    in which case, WHY do you think it will affect your credit rating ? (it wont as long as the judgment is paid promptly) - so why do you believe this myth ?
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    What is the Date of Issue on your Claim Form?

    There is no risk to your credit rating.
    Even if you were to lose in court, if you pay the amount owed within (usually) a month, then your credit rating will not be affected at all.
  • HayleyD83
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    Thank you both for taking time to reply. Please accept my apologies I am completely out of my depth hence coming here to see if it’s worth trying to challenge this. Details as follows:

    Date on claim form 17th Oct
    Name of parking company Civil Enforcement
    Original penalty £100 (reduced to £60 with payment within 14 days) claim is now £331.38 - amount claimed £256.38 plus £25 court fee £50 legal representative fee
    No communication whatsoever from the supermarket just this company.

    I have understood from the newbies thread that I have to acknowledge the claim form within 14 days and then prepare a defense which is what I need help with
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    edited 20 December 2018 at 8:10PM
    HayleyD83 wrote: »
    Date on claim form 17th Oct
    With a Claim Issue Date of 17th October, you have until Monday 5th November to do the Acknowledgement of Service, but there is nothing to be gained by delaying it. To do the AoS, follow the guidance offered in a Dropbox link from post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread.

    Having done the AoS, you then have until 4pm on Monday 19th November 2018 to file your Defence.

    A full four weeks. Loads of time to produce a perfect Defence, but don't leave it to the very last minute.


    When you are happy with the content, your Defence should be filed via email as suggested here:
      Print your Defence.
    1. Sign it and date it.
    2. Scan the signed document back in and save it as a pdf.
    3. Send that pdf as an email attachment to CCBCAQ@Justice.gov.uk
    4. Just put the claim number and the word Defence in the email title, and in the body of the email something like 'Please find my Defence attached'.
    5. Log into MCOL after a few days to see if the Claim is marked "defended". If not chase the CCBC until it is.
    6. Do not be surprised to receive a copy of the Claimant's Directions Questionnaire, they are just trying to put you under pressure.
    7. Wait for your DQ from the CCBC, or download one from the internet, and then re-read post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread to find out exactly what to do with it.
  • Redx
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    mmm, you still have not edited your post at #1 to remove all hint of who did what or was or wasnt liable (hint - plead the 5th)

    and there is no S in DEFENCE , so check from now on

    you dont appear to have given us the exact POC details word for word, but a short summary, which is not what I stated earlier. CEL put all sorts of c*** into the POC details, including the costs and legal fees etc in order to inflate their claim

    full details means - full details (but no PERSONAL details like VRM , claim ref , login password , etc)

    thank you
  • HayleyD83
    HayleyD83 Posts: 130 Forumite
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    Tried to edit last night could not seem to do it from a Smart Phone, will do again

    Re spelling errors really not top of my list of priorities at the moment as you can imagine but will bear in mind for future.

    RE POC I have no idea what that means please break it down for me? As mentioned I have no experience in these matters so am coming in more or less blind. Would be grateful if you could explain in layman’s terms what that means and will be happy to provide as much information as you need.

    Once again most grateful for the help!
  • beamerguy
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    edited 22 October 2018 at 11:07AM
    Hayley, have you nor tried to get this terminated
    by Sansbury's

    Court claims can be stopped right up to a day in court.
    CEL know this, they do it enough times themselves

    Mr Mike Coupe Chief Executive

    Email mike.coupe@sainsburys.co.uk


    Explain you do not expect to be taken to court for
    shopping at Sainsbury's
    Ask ... is this the way Sainsbury's treat their customers ?

    CEL are low life scammers ...... show Mr Coupe this link
    https://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/search?q=CEL

    CEL ARE SCAMMERS APPROVED BY THE BPA

    Original penalty £100 (reduced to £60 with payment within 14 days) claim is now £331.38 - amount claimed £256.38 plus £25 court fee £50 legal representative fee

    You need to show this to the CEO and STATE, that CEL
    are clearly attempting to extort money from you with
    fake add-ons

    I would imagine Mr Coupe would love to add £156 plus
    to a can of soup ........ if he could get away with it ???
  • Deastons
    Deastons Posts: 464 Forumite
    But the OP admits overstaying by 15mins...

    Pay the fine.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,437 Forumite
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    Deastons wrote: »
    But the OP admits overstaying by 15mins...

    Pay the fine.

    So you think she should pay some private company £331?

    By the way, and not just to highlight perhaps how little you know about this stuff in offering your sage 'advice', it's not a fine.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • beamerguy
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    edited 22 October 2018 at 11:05AM
    Deastons wrote: »
    But the OP admits overstaying by 15mins...

    Pay the fine.

    So what, don't be silly ????

    Are you from a parking company ????

    Take no notice of Deastons
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