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My Father is coming to stay with me but the TA says no vistors permited for more than 3 weeks.

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  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 19 October 2018 at 10:33AM
    OK, I stand corrected.

    OP I think you are in danger of creating stress in terms of accommodation where there is no need. While the LA or LA probably won't do anything about the situation unless you loudly broadcast it, asking permission for your father to live there will be forcing them to acknowledge the position and decide consciously whether to allow the situation.

    If you are a stressy type (I say this because I am), don't create problems where there aren't any. You have enough to deal with.

    There may be problems with sheltered housing accommodation in some areas but I know in two areas I have lived in, there seemed to be more single bed/sheltered accommodation than there was family accommodation, and it tended to go to people with lower priority because of this.

    In this case, making a successful claim for PIP, having NHS diagnosis reports etc will help him be seen as a vulnerable person needing accommodation (but this isn't absolutely necessary to qualify). However, be aware that if your father has to go through appeals/tribunal process for these particular benefits, it could take up to a year for anything to be paid, after waiting for him to qualify. He can make the £3k last if he is just needing to pay for food, but being prepared is the best option. He may qualify for PIP and ESA immediately but I am afraid they are stressful benefits to apply for if you have to go through this process. Having gone through the process, it was well worth applying for, but it was hell while waiting for the MR then tribunal to happen and filling in the paperwork!

    It might be worth contacting Age UK for advice, even if he isn't over 65. What you are trying to do is worthwhile, but it is unlikely to be stress free.
  • bflare
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    OK, I stand corrected.

    OP I think you are in danger of creating stress in terms of accommodation where there is no need. While the LA or LA probably won't do anything about the situation unless you loudly broadcast it, asking permission for your father to live there will be forcing them to acknowledge the position and decide consciously whether to allow the situation.

    If you are a stressy type (I say this because I am), don't create problems where there aren't any. You have enough to deal with.

    There may be problems with sheltered housing accommodation in some areas but I know in two areas I have lived in, there seemed to be more single bed/sheltered accommodation than there was family accommodation, and it tended to go to people with lower priority because of this.

    In this case, making a successful claim for PIP, having NHS diagnosis reports etc will help him be seen as a vulnerable person needing accommodation (but this isn't absolutely necessary to qualify). However, be aware that if your father has to go through appeals/tribunal process for these particular benefits, it could take up to a year for anything to be paid, after waiting for him to qualify. He can make the £3k last if he is just needing to pay for food, but being prepared is the best option. He may qualify for PIP and ESA immediately but I am afraid they are stressful benefits to apply for if you have to go through this process. Having gone through the process, it was well worth applying for, but it was hell while waiting for the MR then tribunal to happen and filling in the paperwork!

    It might be worth contacting Age UK for advice, even if he isn't over 65.


    So, basically you think it would be best not to mention my Father staying to the LA & hope nothing is said or if it is then deal with that when & if it arises? I agree if I do mention it then it could just cause issues that may not even be there. He will just need to pay for food as I can manage all other bills, I have a spreadsheet & I have factored in the worst case scenario.


    I have contacted Age UK & the welfare rights who have given me some good advice & we need to see them immediately when he gets back.
  • xylophone
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    He has a rare medical condition which his mum dies of when she was 40 he never thought he would make it past her age & made choices around this but his health has deteriorated rapidly over the last 10 year.

    But he was already over 50 when he accessed one of his pensions?
    It was after the age of 50 that he accessed at least one pension. He was probably 51 at the time.

    He was 56 when he was made redundant from Leeds City Council and left for Italy?

    Did he have a LGPS pension? If so, are you sure that he has actually accessed (and used up) this one and that it is not merely deferred?
  • bflare
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    xylophone wrote: »
    But he was already over 50 when he accessed one of his pensions?



    He was 56 when he was made redundant from Leeds City Council and left for Italy?

    Did he have a LGPS pension? If so, are you sure that he has actually accessed (and used up) this one and that it is not merely deferred?



    I will ask him to confirm later. All I know but it maybe sketchy is that he cashed his pension just before leaving my mother so that will of been around 2008. It was around 14k & my mum took him to court for half of it when they divorced. Then around 5 years ago he took some kind of leave from Leeds City Council then after this leave he took early severance pay which I think was around 6K & I have that statement at home. He worked for various companies through his adult life but I have no idea who he had a pension with.


    I will be honest & say that I have no idea what a LGPS pension is but I can certainly ask him.
  • Comms69
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    bflare wrote: »
    I will ask him to confirm later. All I know but it maybe sketchy is that he cashed his pension just before leaving my mother so that will of been around 2008. It was around 14k & my mum took him to court for half of it when they divorced. Then around 5 years ago he took some kind of leave from Leeds City Council then after this leave he took early severance pay which I think was around 6K & I have that statement at home. He worked for various companies through his adult life but I have no idea who he had a pension with.


    I will be honest & say that I have no idea what a LGPS pension is but I can certainly ask him.


    14k on a LGPS pension? was he not there long?
  • bflare
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    edited 19 October 2018 at 6:01PM
    Comms69 wrote: »
    14k on a LGPS pension? was he not there long?

    I have no idea where that pension came from. He was a charge hand then then milk man, bus driver, driving instructor, self employed then finally worked for Leeds city council.
  • xylophone
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    People who work for a local authority normally join the Local Government Pension Scheme which is a defined benefit pension scheme.

    It would be as well to check whether or not he has a deferred pension from the scheme.

    As he has had many jobs, it is not impossible that there are pensions around that have been forgotten.

    Check - https://www.gov.uk/find-pension-contact-details

    He'll need the information before trying to claim means tested benefits.

    And the state pension...

    https://www.gov.uk/check-state-pension
  • bflare
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    xylophone wrote: »
    People who work for a local authority normally join the Local Government Pension Scheme which is a defined benefit pension scheme.

    It would be as well to check whether or not he has a deferred pension from the scheme.

    As he has had many jobs, it is not impossible that there are pensions around that have been forgotten.

    Check - https://www.gov.uk/find-pension-contact-details

    He'll need the information before trying to claim means tested benefits.

    And the state pension...

    https://www.gov.uk/check-state-pension

    Thanks for this. Can I check on his behalf or does he need to do it?
  • xylophone
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    Can I check on his behalf or does he need to do it?

    He'll need to do it.

    https://www.lgpsmember.org/contactfund.php
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