Kleeneze

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Noname29 wrote: »

I just cant see what the problem is with putting the catalogue out.

One problem we have is that our dogs attack anything coming through the letter box if we are not in (hence why we keep them locked up if we go out and the mail has not arived) ... often the magazines come at any time of the day and are wrapped in polythene (to protect them) which does not do a dogs digestive system much good (and could do some serious damage). To be honest, if the dogs get it the only place it is fit for is the bin.

Ivan

Noname29

Horsham wrote: »

The point the thread OP is making, which I agree with, is WHY should we have to leave your catalogues (and Betterware, and Avon etc.) out cluttering up our doorsteps for days on end.

We should be able to tell you once and for all that we do not want your catalogues. Is that really to much to ask?

Yu dont have to leave it for days on end. If I dont collect a book when I say I will I dont expect it to be there. I will check but would fully understand if it was binned.
As for the national register, its just not available, although I'm sure with willpower it could be set up. Most distributors are online so the database gets updated centrally and each Dist check by postcode etc.
I'm sure the Dists would benefit as well as they genuinely dont want to offend people.
Its not the new Dists fault, and you are right the company could sort it if they wanted to !!

Poppycat

So how do you expect us to no know its okay to bin a catalogue of over inflated goods when you don't come on the day you say you will?

I have lost count the amount of times I left catalogue for days on end because the people who delivered it clearly gave up on this. Its a business that charges well over the odds for its goods, promises the Earth and deliveries very little. The only people who make serious money from this are those at the top of the chain.

One thing gets right up my nose so much annoyance is Kleeneze and I know I am not alone in that view from people I know.

Noname29 wrote: »

Yu dont have to leave it for days on end. If I dont collect a book when I say I will I dont expect it to be there. I will check but would fully understand if it was binned.
As for the national register, its just not available, although I'm sure with willpower it could be set up. Most distributors are online so the database gets updated centrally and each Dist check by postcode etc.
I'm sure the Dists would benefit as well as they genuinely dont want to offend people.
Its not the new Dists fault, and you are right the company could sort it if they wanted to !!

Chippie

Ultimately, regardless of whatever any distributor says and however you wish to rationalise it, if I receive unsolicited junk mail or catalogues through my door I am within my rights to "recycle" it! End of story.

eco123

I joined Kleeneze seven years ago at a time when I was £20,000+ in debt.
I was skeptical cos there were three other distributors in the area.
I have paid off all my debt, now have savings and bought a brand new £27,000 car in March this year - for cash!! I have laso paid off my mortgage and have another property which I rent out
Basically, Kleeneze works if you work at it! Anyone who says they lost money at it obviously didn't work at it properly. It is not a get rich quick scheme, it is a serious business for people who are serious about bettering their lifestyle.
Kleeneze is great but with the caveat is that you DO have to work at it. I now earn £3,500 per month part-time from Kleeneze but ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE WORKED AT IT.

YOU ARE FULL OF SH*T

Nobody believes your comments & you are dillusional.

Jo_F

One thing that keeps getting over looked is the fact that Kleeneze is not and never will be a 'get rich quick'.

You have to look at it as a business and treat it just the same, if you started your own business up then you would expect to spend long hours building it up for very little reward. Well that's exactly the same with Kleeneze, if you are not prepared to put the hours and the work in, then you are not going to get much out of it.

I don't do it any more, I don't have the time for it, but it does work, and I had met the people that it works for. They have taken a few years to build it up, its just doesn't fall into your lap overnight with no work put in.

samcantcope

I did it for 6 months and broke even, I got the money back from my catalogues and gave up, I was fed up with dragging my 8month old around the straights picking up and dropping off catalogues, I even tried selling stuff on ebay from the book, but it didnt work for us.

NEVER_EZE

As a new visitor to this site, was very surprised to see that the usual Kleeneze spammers are active here.

From lenghthy experience I would not recommend Kleeneze to anyone at all, especially if you are looking to use your time to earn extra money.

For those looking to earn an extra £100, you will be treated like a customer by Kleeneze, and the goal posts will be moved as you progress. You must pay for catalogues (something the company earn money from) and must be topped up regularly , charged for delivery to you, charged to use internet, and the list goes on. On top of this you will need to pay for your own expenses, such as stationary,petrol and tax etc.

For those looking to earn a larger income, don't be fooled by the dvd presentations or sales patter. Kleeneze is promoted as an ethical business, it is neither. There are no ethics, as distributors are bullied by the company and their sponsors. People are given the infamous "five year plan", which rarely works, yet the favourite expression trotted out will be given to you "Kleeneze works if you do". You will be made to feel inferior if you do not eat, breath and sleep Kleeneze, you will be bullied to buy books, go to meetings and to approach people in debt to join. This company is an updated version of AMWAY, at the end of the day it is a pyramid organisation!

We acheived a level of success, receiving free holidays and a cheque each month that was around £5500. But beware, you are not advised about tax, and the money you will have to invest in advertising and running meetings etc. Then there is two of us, so suddenly the cheque is not so large after all.

However, you keep trying to work harder and harder to feed the animal with new recruits, but unfortunately the only reason to introduce new recruits is to feather your own nest or those in your line of sponsorship. The top earners care little about those putting catalogues through doors, so long as they do and Kleeneze's poor quality, over priced wares are sold, they all get paid at your expense.

Having left Kleeneze, we are back in the real world, and have recovered from our time in the organisation. Despite our "life changing cheque", we nearly ended up bankrupt with huge debts and misery. With the help of several specialists we are debt free and enjoying running a profitable "proper" business, not a pyramid one that came collapsing down.

I hope that this helps anyone looking into this dark organisation. If you currently are involved in Kleeneze, look in the mirror. What have you become, and how much do you actually make net of expenses and tax?

Remember only a handful of people in the UK make a fantastic income from this mlm company - and its you who is paying!

NEVER_EZE

roaming_rhino wrote: »

Hi

just reading through all the replies about Kleeneze , what it it and isnt

we have been kleeneze distributors for 12 years now
if it didnt work or pay i for one wouldnt have done it and stayed with it

We are amongst some of the higher earners earning around £100k per year

I understand it isnt for everyone and everyone is entitled to an opinion

I really could if ever asked cover anyones living room floor with hundreds
of copies of distributors income certificates from our team alone
WE DONT NEED TO LIE OR HIDE ANYTHING

I had been in the job world going no where for 13 years - if i had kept on working a job i would still have been going no where , Its fact that 95% of people in the UK at end of at retirement potless and broke , Kleeneze offers not only money , an alternative to a pension , free holidays , free cars , tons of recognition , etc all of which have to be earned and worked for but the rewards far exceed any job or career i have seen

Findel Plc a footsie 250 plc acquired kleeneze recently and i dont think a 600 million PLC Company would buy a company like Kleeneze if
a/ it was a scam
b/ if it didnt work
c/ if they did not see available profits
d/ there was no growth potential

of course you will laways get doubters, people who claim it is this and that
It still doesnt stop people joining

Kleeneze like any other opportunity works if you do it properly and follow the advise of successful people

Having come across your post, just wanted to put the record straight. Having been involved in Kleeneze for many years, find it sad that the same nonsense is spouted by the likes of yourself. If you truly consider yourself a business person, go to your local chamber of commerce or local business forum and see how silly you look. You are a parasite that serves only one purpose - to sell overpriced products for a third rate importer.

Regarding the Kleeneze brand being bought by Findel, because they are so good.

a)Findel bought Kleeneze when FAREPACK went bust, leaving many people high and dry. Kleeneze has many of the same policies and proceedures now that they had under the management that stole huge monies from Farepack clients. Some of the same management that was involved in those scandolous days still work fro Kleeneze.

b) Kleeneze clearly does not work for most people, which I am sure you will accept.

c)Obviously buying Kleeneze on the cheap was good business for Findel. And when a product can be sold at four or five times its original cost, I am sure that they rubbed their hands. During Xmas, Findel sold many of the same products as Kleeneze through other publications at far cheaper prices.

d)Regarding growth, Findel are now aware there will not be very much, sales year on year are falling, and will never recover.So, they will bleed it what they can now. Within five years it will be gone!

Do yourself a favour, look elsewhere for your prey. You have nothing to offer people trying to better themselves financially, or get out of debt.

NEVER_EZE

roaming_rhino wrote: »

Hi

just reading through all the replies about Kleeneze , what it it and isnt

we have been kleeneze distributors for 12 years now
if it didnt work or pay i for one wouldnt have done it and stayed with it

We are amongst some of the higher earners earning around £100k per year

I understand it isnt for everyone and everyone is entitled to an opinion

I really could if ever asked cover anyones living room floor with hundreds
of copies of distributors income certificates from our team alone
WE DONT NEED TO LIE OR HIDE ANYTHING

I had been in the job world going no where for 13 years - if i had kept on working a job i would still have been going no where , Its fact that 95% of people in the UK at end of at retirement potless and broke , Kleeneze offers not only money , an alternative to a pension , free holidays , free cars , tons of recognition , etc all of which have to be earned and worked for but the rewards far exceed any job or career i have seen

Findel Plc a footsie 250 plc acquired kleeneze recently and i dont think a 600 million PLC Company would buy a company like Kleeneze if
a/ it was a scam
b/ if it didnt work
c/ if they did not see available profits
d/ there was no growth potential

of course you will laways get doubters, people who claim it is this and that
It still doesnt stop people joining

Kleeneze like any other opportunity works if you do it properly and follow the advise of successful people

Having come across your post, just wanted to put the record straight. Having been involved in Kleeneze for many years, find it sad that the same nonsense is spouted by the likes of yourself. If you truly consider yourself a business person, go to your local chamber of commerce or local business forum and see how silly you look. You are a parasite that serves only one purpose - to sell overpriced products for a third rate importer.

Regarding the Kleeneze brand being bought by Findel, because they are so good.

a)Findel bought Kleeneze when FAREPACK went bust, leaving many people high and dry. Kleeneze has many of the same policies and proceedures now that they had under the management that stole huge monies from Farepack clients. Some of the same management that was involved in those scandolous days still work fro Kleeneze.

b) Kleeneze clearly does not work for most people, which I am sure you will accept.

c)Obviously buying Kleeneze on the cheap was good business for Findel. And when a product can be sold at four or five times its original cost, I am sure that they rubbed their hands. During Xmas, Findel sold many of the same products as Kleeneze through other publications at far cheaper prices.

d)Regarding growth, Findel are now aware there will not be very much, sales year on year are falling, and will never recover.So, they will bleed it what they can now. Within five years it will be gone!

Do yourself a favour, look elsewhere for your prey. You have nothing to offer people trying to better themselves financially, or get out of debt.