Cloned plates and a parking fine

Gong_yoo

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Do the same as the person above.

Copy and edit the DVLA and BPA complaint email.

And send UKPC a rectification notice telling them to rectify the inaccurate data.

Thank you Coupon Mad.. where can I get the complaint email of DVLA and BPA please? And what is UKPC and what is the rectification notice please? I am really sorry being a pain... thanks 😊

KeithP

Gong yoo, if you want to ask questions then please start your own thread.

Trying to deal with two people's issues in one thread can only lead to confusion.

Please... no further posts on this thread. Thank you.

__bc1

Thanks for the advice so far although im about to send my appeal and have been asked to select whether i am: Driver, Registered Keeper, or Both.

I am struggling with what to fill out, as its a lease car so don't know if i should select registered keeper, and would selecting Driver be an admission of driving the car when parking offence was commited.

Thankyou

__bc1

Also still no reply from DVLA. Starting to worry now what the next step will be if UKPC decline my appeal.

The_Deep

IMO that would be very foolish

__bc1

The_Deep wrote: »

IMO that would be very foolish

I have to select one of the three options to submit my appeal to ukpc

Coupon-mad

__bc1 wrote: »

Thanks for the advice so far although im about to send my appeal and have been asked to select whether i am: Driver, Registered Keeper, or Both.

I am struggling with what to fill out, as its a lease car so don't know if i should select registered keeper, and would selecting Driver be an admission of driving the car when parking offence was commited.

Thankyou

Choose registered keeper, then explain in the appeal box that in fact you are the lessee/keeper. Then the rest of the template appeal.

DO NOT CHOOSE DRIVER.

Stop worrying!

The_Deep

Much ado about nothing here and I am surprised that there have been so many posts on this thread

If the plates were cloned then surely the PPC has not a leg to stand on. They must cancel forthwith or face the consequences. Can no-one here see the wood through the trees!

__bc1

Took the appeal template and made some changes, could you read over it and tell me if anything needs changing..

"I appeal and dispute your 'parking charge', as the lessee of the vehicle. I deny any liability.

There will be no admissions as to who was driving and no assumptions can be drawn.

The vehicle shown in your pictures is a vehicle on cloned plates, as I have never been or parked in the location shown in the parking charge letter.

Also as shown in the pictures I have attatched, there are some clear visual differences between my reg plate and the ones provided in your pictures. The number plates of my car have screws in between the D and F, and Y and R. Whereas the vehicle shown on your pictures shows the screws to be right at the very end of each side of the number plate.

There is also no company or dealership name / postcode on the number plate of the car in the pictures provided by you, but as you can clearly see my number plates have the company website 'xxxx' and the company name / postcode 'xxxx'

I was also stopped by Merseyside Police on the 15/07/18 (3 days after the parking offence was apparently committed) due to them having reports that my VRN had been cloned, after checking my VIN number they confirmed it was my car.

I have also been to see Merseyside Police since receiving the parking charge in the post, who have confirmed using ANPR that my VRN was cloned on the 12/07/18 and have said they are willing to confirm this if you write to them by email or telephone to:
xxxxxx


Should you fail to cancel this PCN, I require with your rejection letter, all images taken of this vehicle & the signs at the location that day. Do not withhold any images or data later relied on for POPLA/court.

Firms of your ilk were unanimously condemned in 2018 as operating an 'outrageous scam' (Hansard 2.2.18). The BPA & IPC were heavily criticised too; hardly surprising for an industry where so-called AOS members admit to letting victims 'futilely go through the motions' of appeal and say on camera 'we make it up sometimes' (BBC Watchdog).

I will be making a formal complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner, as well as complaining in writing to my MP and ensuring that they are appraised of the debate where Parliament agreed unanimously: ''we need to crack down on these rogue companies. They are an absolute disgrace to this country. Ordinary motorists...should not have to put up with this''.

Formal note:

Service of any rejection letter/POPLA code and/or legal documents by email is expressly disallowed. All responses to me from this point on, must be made by post. Regardless of any MCOL online/email system, service of any court claim must only be made by first class post to the latest address provided by me.

Yours faithfully, "

KeithP

In my opinion, there are too many instances of the word 'I' in that appeal text.

In particular, "...I have never been or parked in the location shown...".

Surely the only suggestion is that the car was in the 'location shown'.

You are in great danger of admitting who the driver was. Be careful.