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Gladstones County Court Claim Form Received 13/08/18

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  • dredd29
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    Hi KeithP

    Thank you for taking the time that’s helpful advice. Most appreciated.
  • System
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    edited 6 September 2018 at 6:07AM
    which had an access road up to the car park areas with no road markings in other words looked like a public road

    Having looked at the pics which a judge will see, there are road markings (see #27) and a dropped kerb where it appears the car was parked. Or did the driver avoid these.

    The argument could be made out that the road markings though not having an legal effect on private land indicated the "No Parking" areas whereas you parked on an unmarked area (if true) and kept to the interpretation of the instructions that appeared to be correct.

    If MB wanted ALL of the road to have no parking, they should have painted all of the road. As such "contra proferentem" applies.

    But that argument is fact related and needs your confirmation. You need to hammer home that the signs they use are not tested in the same way as public ones and are no more than "best endeavours" and not very good ones at that.

    These companies want all the benefits of council tickets (£100) but none of the costs associated with testing and checking sign layouts, or the readability of font sizes or wording.
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  • dredd29
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    Hi IamEmanresu

    Thanks for that valuable input I have added that advice into point 4 as relevant to me.

    Here is draft defence cut n pasted just so the forum can refresh on the content.

    Please can I ask I was photographed by person with camera, the cut n pasted defence talks about ANPR cameras which are on the site but no photographs have been used in my case. So should I take any reference to these out or leave in as relevant / stronger case ?

    Here is the draft which has to be submitted this week :


    1. The Defendant is the registered keeper of the vehicle in question. This vehicle is routinely used by more than one individual. The Claim relates to an alleged debt arising from the driver’s alleged breach of contract when parking at xxxxxx xxxxxx retail car park on the xxth.

    2. The defendant has visited the said car park as a result of this claim. It was noticed that there is no prominent signage at the entrances to the site from the main road and within the car park itself. Photos and video footage are to be presented as evidence of the inadequate notice of any contract.

    3. Any signage present is simply unreadable whilst driving. In addition, it is placed in locations where it is not obvious to the driver i.e. blind spots from the drivers’; line of sight, near give way lines before mini roundabout where a driver would ‘look right’; as per the Highway Code. Therefore the signage on this site is inadequate to form any contract with the motorist.

    4. The defendant also argues that the road markings though not having an legal effect on private land indicated the “No Parking” areas whereas the defendant parked on an unmarked area and kept to the interpretation of the instructions that appeared to be correct. If the claimant wanted ALL of the road to have no parking, they should have painted all of the road. As such “contra proferentem” applies. Photos will be provided of the areas with and without road markings.

    5. The Claimant has provided no evidence in pre-action correspondence or otherwise that the Defendant was the driver. The Defendant avers that the Claimant is therefore limited to pursuing the keeper in these proceedings under the provisions set out by statute in the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.

    5.1. Before seeking to rely on the keeper liability provisions of Schedule 4 POFA the Claimant must demonstrate that:
    There was a relevant obligation either by way of a breach of contract, trespass or other tort.

    5.1.2. That it has followed the required deadlines and wording as described in the Act to transfer liability from the driver to the registered keeper. It is not admitted that the Claimant has complied with the relevant statutory requirements.

    5.2. To the extent that the Claimant may seek to allege that any such presumption exists, the Defendant expressly denies that there is any presumption in law whether in statute or otherwise that the keeper is the driver. Further, the Defendant denies that the vehicle keeper is obliged to name the driver to a private parking firm. Had this been the intention of parliament, they would have made such requirements part of POFA, which makes no such provision. In the alternative, an amendment could have been made to s.172 of the Road Traffic Act 1988. The 1988 Act continues to oblige the identification of drivers only in strictly limited circumstances, where a criminal offence has been committed. Those provisions do not apply to this matter.

    6. The Claimant is put to proof that it has sufficient interest in the land or that there are specific terms in its contract to bring an action on its own behalf. As a third party agent, the Claimant may not pursue any charge for trepass, and lacks any legitimate interest which would disengage the penalty rule and allow recovery of an otherwise unconscionable and punitive charge.

    7. The Claimant has at no time provided an explanation how the parking charge has been calculated, the conduct that gave rise to it or how the amount has escalated from £100 to £240.05. This appears to be an added cost with apparently no qualification and an attempt at more than double the recovery, which the POFA Schedule 4 specifically disallows.

    7.1. The Protection of Freedoms Act, Schedule 4, Para 4 states that the maximum sum that may be recovered from the keeper is the charge stated on the Notice to Keeper.

    7.2. The driver did not enter into any agreement on the charge, no consideration flowed between the parties and no contract was established.

    8. The Defendant relies upon ParkingEye Ltd v Barry Beavis 2015 UKSC 67 insofar as the Court were willing to impose a penalty in the context of a site of commercial value and where the signage regarding the penalties imposed for any breach of parking terms were clear - both upon entry to the site and throughout.

    8.1. The Defendant avers that the parking signage in this matter was, without prejudice to his primary defence above, woefully inadequate.

    8.1.1. At the time of the material events the signage was deficient in number, distribution, wording and lighting to reasonably convey a contractual obligation.

    8.1.2. The signage did not comply with the requirements of the Code of Practice of the Independent Parking Committee Accredited Operators Scheme, an organisation to which the Claimant was a signatory.

    8.1.3. The signage contained particularly onerous terms not sufficiently drawn to the attention of the visitor as set out in the leading judgment of Denning MR in J Spurling v Bradshaw 1956 EWCA Civ 3.

    8.2. The signage where the vehicle was photographed is not at the entrance and to the back of the parking site therefore making it inadequate to see, the full terms are in small writing making it illegible and does not mention what restrictions apply to the carpark in question. The Code of Practice of the Independent Parking Committee Accredited Operators Scheme, an organisation to which the Claimant is a signatory, states that should be of such a size and in a font that can be easily read by a motorist having regard to the likely position of the motorist in relation to the sign. The signage in the area does not meet this requirement.

    8.2.1. The signage states that it is for use of Mecca Bingo patrons only, and that such patrons be on the authorised user list. The sign does not state how to be on the authorised user list but does state that customers can use the parking site so it is a frustration of contract.

    8.2.2. It is therefore denied that the signs used by this claimant could have formed a fair or transparent contract with a driver or was capable of being formed in any event. The signs were insufficient in terms of their distribution, wording and lighting hence incapable of binding the driver, which distinguishes this case from the Beavis case.

    9. The Defendant also disputes that the Claimant has incurred £50 solicitor costs.

    9.1. The Defendant has the reasonable belief that the Claimant has not incurred £50 costs to pursue an alleged £100 debt.

    9.2. Notwithstanding the Defendant's belief, the costs are in any case not recoverable.

    9.3. The Claimant described the charge of £50.00 "legal representative’s costs" not "contractual costs". CPR 27.14 does not permit these to be recovered in the Small Claims Court.

    10. The claimant failed to include a copy of their written contract as per Practice Direction 16 7.3(1) and Practice Direction 7C 1.4(3A). No indication is given as to the Claimants contractual authority to operate there as required by the Claimants Trade Association's Code of Practice B1.1 which says; “If you operate parking management activities on land which is not owned by you, you must supply us with written authority from the land owner sufficient to establish you as the ‘Creditor’; within the meaning of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (where applicable) and in any event to establish you as a person who is able to recover parking charges. There is no prescribed form for such agreement and it need not necessarily be as part of a contract but it must include the express ability for an operator to recover parking charges on the landowner’s behalf or provide sufficient right to occupy the land in question so that charges can be recovered by the operator directly. This applies whether or not you intend to use the keeper liability provisions.”

    11. The particulars of the claim do not meet the requirements of Practice Direction 16 7.5 as there is nothing which specifies how the terms were breached. Indeed the particulars of claim are not clear and concise as is required by CPR 16.4 1(a). The Claimants are known to be serial issuers of generic claims similar to this one. HM Courts Service have identified over 1000 similar sparse claims. I believe the term for such behaviour is ‘roboclaims’; and as such is against the public interest. Practice Direction 3A which references Civil Procedure Rule 3.4 illustrates this point;

    12. This Claimant uses ANPR camera systems to process data but fails to comply with the Information Commissioner's 'Data Protection Code of Practice for Surveillance Cameras and Personal Information'. This Code confirms that it applies to ANPR systems, and that the private sector is required to follow this code to meet its legal obligations as a data processor. Members of the British Parking Association AOS are required to comply fully with the DPA, as a pre-requisite of being able to use the DVLA KADOE system and in order to enforce parking charges on private land. The Claimant's failures to comply include, but are not limited to:

    12.1. Lack of an initial privacy impact assessment.

    12.2. Lack of an evaluation of proportionality and necessity, considering concepts that would impact upon fairness under the first data protection principle.

    12.3. Failure to regularly evaluate whether it was necessary and proportionate to continue using ANPR at all times/days across the site, as opposed to a less privacy-intrusive method of parking enforcement (such as 'light touch' enforcement only at busy times, or manning the car park with a warden in order to consider the needs of genuine shoppers and taking into account the prevailing conditions at the site on any given day).

    12.4. Failure to prominently inform a driver in large lettering on clear signage, of the purpose of the ANPR system and how the data would be used.

    12.5. Lack of the 'Privacy Notice' required to deliver mandatory information about an individual's right of subject access, under the Data Protection Act (DPA). At no point has the Defendant been advised how to apply for a Subject Access Request, what that is, nor informed of the legal right to obtain all relevant data held, and This Claimant has therefore failed to meet its legal obligations under the DPA.

    13. In a similar instance of DPA failure when using ANPR cameras without full DPA compliance - confirmed on this Claimant's Trade Body website in a 2013 article urging its members to comply - Hertfordshire Constabulary was issued with an enforcement notice. The force were ordered to stop processing people's information via ANPR until they could comply. The Information Commissioner ruled that the collection of the information was unlawful; breaching principle one of the DPA.

    14. The Court's attention will be drawn to the case of Andre Agassi v S Robinson (HM Inspector of Taxes). Whilst not wholly aligned to the issues in this case, it is on all fours with the above point, because of the principle it extols that no one should profit from their unlawful conduct. Paragraph 20 of the Transcript of that case states: ''It is common ground that, whatever costs may be recoverable by a litigant in respect of professional services such as those provided by Tenon to the appellant, they cannot include the cost of any activities which are unlawful''. Paragraph 28 continues - ''...cannot on any view recover the cost of activities performed by Tenon which it was not lawful for them to perform.''

    15. Further, in RTA (Business Consultants) Limited v Bracewell [2015] EWHC 630 (QB) (12 March 2015), at paragraph 34 the Judge discusses the relevance of the public law principle going back well over 200 years, that no man should profit from his crime; it is submitted that this is particularly relevant in this action. The Judge cited Lord Mansfield CJ to explain that: ''The principle of public policy is this; ex dolo malo non oritur actio. No Court will lend its aid to a man who founds his cause of action upon an immoral or an illegal act. If [...] the cause of action appears to arise ex turpi causa, or the transgression of a positive law of this country, there the Court says he has no right to be assisted. It is upon that ground the Court goes; not for the sake of the defendant, but because they will not lend their aid to such a claimant.''

    16. Even if there was a purported contract between the unidentified driver and the Claimant, it was illegal at its formation because it was incapable of being created without an illegal act (the failure to comply with points #12.4 above, as part of the legal obligations that must be communicated up front and/or undertaken by a consumer-facing service provider, some of which were required even before commencing any use of ANPR at all.

    17. Where a contract is illegal when formed, neither party will acquire rights under that contract, regardless of whether or not there was an intention to break the law; the contract will be void and treated as if it had never been entered into. As such, the asserted contract cannot be enforced.

    18. In this case it was not lawful for the Claimant to process any data using ANPR camera systems upon which it relied for the entire ticketing regime, due to its failure to meet its specific legal obligations as a data processor of ANPR information. The collection of the information was unlawful; breaching principle one of the Data Protection Act.

    19. Furthermore, the Defendant also cites from ParkingEye Ltd v Somerfield Stores Ltd [2012] EWCA Civ 1338, which concerns an alleged illegal contract involving a similar BPA member parking firm. Whilst the facts of that case are not relevant, the Judge's comments at paragraph 29 of the Transcript of the Somerfield case are of importance: ''At common law, historically, a distinction has been drawn between cases where the guilty party intended from the time of entering the contract unlawfully and cases where the intention to perform unlawfully was only made subsequently''. As has already been stated, in this case the problem arose at (and before) the formation of the alleged contract and was not in relation to any subsequent act. Laws LJ, in Somerfield, concluded that ParkingEye did not have an intention, when creating that contract, to deliberately break the law so the contract was upheld. Differently in this case, it is asserted that the Claimant did deliberately or negligently break the DPA and as it was a BPA member with access to a wealth of DPA compliance information, articles and legal advice, and being a signatory to the KADOE contract with the DVLA, the Claimant cannot be excused from, nor justify, their conduct in failing to meet their legal obligations.

    20. At paragraphs 65-74 of the Somerfield transcript, Laws LJ set out three factors which need to be considered in a defence of illegality. The Defendant submits that the key issues in this action are that:

    (a) the commission of an illegal wrong being present at the time of entering the contract means that the Claimant will not be able to enforce the contract.
    (b) the illegality is central to the contract and is not merely a minor aspect, thus it should not be held to be too remote so as to render the contract enforceable.
    (c) the nature of the illegality: in this case it was a breach of legal obligations regarding data, and not merely a civil tort as in Somerfield. The gravity of the illegality is therefore far greater.

    21. The Claimant is attempting to claim additional charges such as solicitors and legal costs of £140.05. The Protection of Freedoms Act does not permit the Claimant to recover a sum greater than the parking charge on the day before a Notice to Keeper was issued. The Claimant cannot recover additional charges. The Defendant also has the reasonable belief that the Claimant has not incurred the stated additional costs and it is put to strict proof that they have indeed been incurred. Furthermore, legal costs cannot be recovered in the Small Claims Court and should be struck out as unrecoverable.

    22. In view of all the foregoing the court is invited to strike the matter out of its own motion. The claimant is put to strict proof of the assertions they have made or may make in their fuller claim.

    23. On the 20th September 2016 another relevant poorly pleaded private parking charge claim by Gladstones was struck out by District Judge Cross of St Albans County Court without a hearing due to their ‘roboclaim’; particulars being incoherent, failing to comply with CPR. 16.4 and ‘providing no facts that could give rise to any apparent claim in law.’

    24. On the 27th July 2016 DJ Anson sitting at Preston County Court ruled that the very similar parking charge particulars of claim were deficient and failing to meet CPR 16.4 and PD 16 paragraphs 7.3 - 7.6. He ordered the Claimant in that case to file new particulars which they failed to do and so the court confirmed that the claim be struck out.

    25. I would like the Court to take note that the defendant was then aggressively harassed by letter after letter from different collection agencies, despite not being liable for these made up costs.

    26. The Court is invited to dismiss the Claim, and to allow such Defendant’s costs as are permissible under Civil Procedure Rule 27.14.

    I believe the facts stated in this Defence are true.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 10 September 2018 at 12:21AM
    Please can I ask, I was photographed by person with camera,
    Normally I would say, edit that immediately...but your defence would be stronger IMHO if you simply defend it as driver, given the signage makes no parking licence offer at all, and there were no road markings.

    That defence is far too long, so cut out:

    - repetitive stuff
    - everything about ANPR an surveillance camera use (that defence is not relevant to you)
    - and remove everything that talks about them not have evidence of who parked,
    - or the fact the car is used by more than one driver,
    - remove anything about 'no keeper liability'/the POFA (e.g. the whole of 5)
    - remove the waffle, e.g. all of #23, #24 and #25.

    Independent Parking Committee
    Not only is that the wrong name, but Minster Baywatch are not even in the IPC!

    ...research, proof reading of what you copy, and an eye for detail, and a more relevant/concise defence, are the order of the day.


    And I would change this wording:
    4. The defendant also argues that the road markings though not having an legal effect on private land indicated the 'No Parking' areas whereas the defendant parked on an unmarked area and kept to the interpretation of the instructions that appeared to be correct. If the claimant wanted ALL of the road to have no parking, they should have painted all of the road. As such contra proferentem applies. Photos will be provided of the areas with and without road markings.

    (where you have actually blabbed about you parking anyway!). See how hard it is to be consistent, imagine being caught out looking less than honest in front of your local Judge at the hearing.

    How about change #4 to something like this:
    4. The Defendant parked on an unmarked area, avoiding those parts of the site that had yellow or hatched line markings. In evidence, photographs will be provided of the areas with and without road markings.

    4.1. If the Claimant had a genuine intention that all of the roadway was to be a 'no stopping zone', they could have painted all of the road with double red lines and should have placed plentiful clearway-style signage, facing oncoming traffic. The doctrine of contra proferentem* applies.

    4.2. This is just one example of the ways in which this Claimant is in breach of its Trade Body (BPA) Code of Practice. The Claimant has been a member of the BPA 'AOS' for many years, so they are expected to be familiar with the words of renowned parking law expert barrister and Lead Adjudicator, Henry Michael Greenslade in his independent 'Parking on Private Land Appeals' (POPLA) Annual Reports. In the 'No Stopping Zones' section of the 2013 Report, he took time to set out for AOS members and appellants, specific requirements for clearly marking areas that are not intended for stopping/parking.

    4.2.1. This Claimant has no excuse, five years later, for failure to mark an area prominently and unequivocally.

    4.3. Further and in the alternative, even if the Claimant had placed enormous and prominent 'no stopping' signs and lines throughout, a driver who stopped would be a trespasser and thus, a parking firm not in possession of the land will be in extreme difficulty with any claim for an inflated charge dressed up under the excuse of 'contractual breach'.

    4.3.1. This was explored in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67, where the Supreme Court reiterated that it remains trite law that a parking firm not in possession, cannot sue for trespass nor damages, because there is no loss caused. Only the landowner could litigate for any trespass, to recover actual damages arising under tort.

    4.4. Unlike in the completely different Beavis case, here there was no licence to park granted so there can be no breach. Where no consideration flows between the parties, there can be no contractual relationship at all.



    *hope you have read & understood what this means in the context of signs, so you can explain the issue at your hearing later?
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