Weight loss/healthy eating help

Anoneemoose

Also, at least my links aren’t for organisations that offer bariatric surgery...as shown here:

https://stanfordhealthcare.org/medical-clinics/bariatric-surgery.html

Here’s another from me:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3920805/

pollypenny

I'm another one who has kept weight off for nearly two years.

IF based on Michael Mosley's book until I reached target on 20 September, 2016. Now I follow a 16:8 structure and basically eat want I like: sensible, but treat when I fancy one.

I found that I can eat from appetite. Previously any hint of 'peckish' or even just boredom would see me raiding the pantry.

madlyn

So over the weekend I gave the 16:8 ago and I didn't find it to bad, not sure if I could do it every day or on a work day.
I have swapped my cereal for porridge, but I did find that with a drizzle of maple syrup a bit boring. So any suggestions on how to liven it up or make it even more filling would be great.
I only have notes in my purse so I cannot go to the vending machine.
I have a bag of skinny popcorn to nibble on if needed.
And instead of having homemade potato wedges with my evening meal I am doing roast veg.

pollypenny

madlyn wrote: »

So over the weekend I gave the 16:8 ago and I didn't find it to bad, not sure if I could do it every day or on a work day.
I have swapped my cereal for porridge, but I did find that with a drizzle of maple syrup a bit boring. So any suggestions on how to liven it up or make it even more filling would be great.
I only have notes in my purse so I cannot go to the vending machine.
I have a bag of skinny popcorn to nibble on if needed.
And instead of having homemade potato wedges with my evening meal I am doing roast veg.

Add some berries or sliced banana to your porridge. Have a good slug of water before you eat, helps to make it filling. But I'm sure you'll find that your stomach will reduce and you'll need less to feel satisfied.

16:8 every day is easy for us now. I can't imagine eating three meals a day now. We were eating by the clock rather than need.

gettingtheresometime

madlyn wrote: »

So over the weekend I gave the 16:8 ago and I didn't find it to bad, not sure if I could do it every day or on a work day.
I have swapped my cereal for porridge, but I did find that with a drizzle of maple syrup a bit boring. So any suggestions on how to liven it up or make it even more filling would be great.
I only have notes in my purse so I cannot go to the vending machine.
I have a bag of skinny popcorn to nibble on if needed.
And instead of having homemade potato wedges with my evening meal I am doing roast veg.

I find it's easier on a work day as I'm not able to snack.

I know people add fruit to their porridge but I found that disgusting but it may have been because the fruit was previously frozen

madlyn

I have never fancied adding frozen fruit to porridge either.
I have just found a vast array of suggestions for toppings online, going to give pecan, sunflower or pumpkin seeds and some sort of dried fruit perhaps dates ago.

pumpkin89

gettingtheresometime wrote: »

I find it's easier on a work day as I'm not able to snack.

This might just be the great divide in weight loss! Those of us who work in office jobs have endless opportunities to snack - and, unlike at home, can't control what kinds of food are left around the place. Within 10 feet of me there are 4 cakes, biscuits, fudge, 4 types of chocolate and 2 types of sweets (all of which I've avoided eating today :T)

gettingtheresometime

madlyn wrote: »

I have never fancied adding frozen fruit to porridge either.
I have just found a vast array of suggestions for toppings online, going to give pecan, sunflower or pumpkin seeds and some sort of dried fruit perhaps dates ago.

It was defrosted (I normally eat defrosted frozen fruit with cereal and find it ok) but it just tasted wrong - almost like as if it had been stewed.

pumpkin89 wrote: »

This might just be the great divide in weight loss! Those of us who work in office jobs have endless opportunities to snack - and, unlike at home, can't control what kinds of food are left around the place. Within 10 feet of me there are 4 cakes, biscuits, fudge, 4 types of chocolate and 2 types of sweets (all of which I've avoided eating today :T)

I know what you mean - my last office was a haven (or hell depending on your outlook) for chocolate, cakes & biscuits.....perhaps we're just more tight fisted in this one lol.

BananaRepublic

Anoneemoose wrote: »

Think what you like. You show me the scientific proof that there is a guaranteed weight loss tool for the majority of people and I might listen.

Sorry I’m not letting you get away with changing what you said. Let me remind you:

“Not to mention the fact that there is no known method of permanent weight loss,”

That statement is nonsense.

Anoneemoose wrote: »

The fact is, there isn’t one. But plenty showing the opposite. Plenty of research in fact. Including long term studies. As for the link you provided, if you look at the ‘weight maintenance’ section, you’ll see they even say this: and I quote “Losing weight is hard enough. Keeping it off presents its own challenges. Between 80 and 85 percent of those who lose a large amount of weight regain it”. At least my links back up what I’m saying. As does yours it would seem.

It is well known that most dieters fail to maintain weight loss, for many reasons. Faddish diets don’t help. By the way you really need to learn how scientific research works and not just accept the claims of one study. I really don’t think you know what you are talking about, then again that’s probably true of most people pushing their own diet related agenda. Incidentally I don’t intend to be rude, but science is complex, and even though I am trained in science, I would not pretend to understand papers from another discipline. That’s why I think you are being very naive.

Anoneemoose wrote: »

Nigel Lawson is ONE person and so are you.. and as I said before, there will be a very small minority of people who will keep the weight off. It’s estimated to be between 5/15% Some say 5, some say 15%. Edited to say..as posted earlier..this explains WHY it’s so difficult to maintain weight loss.

https://youtu.be/jn0Ygp7pMbA


And I’ll reiterate my point about the NHS. They haven’t got a jar of glue about diet and nutrition in regard to weight loss. They still recommend low fat and sweeteners.

As regards obesity causing illnesses...I’m still not convinced. I know there are correlations between obesity and certain illnesses but that does not mean that the obesity is a direct cause of them. And once again, even IF it did, those 4 healthy behaviours are key to health marker improvement..NOT the weight loss

So, you accept whatever matches what you want to believe.

Given the choice of believing the opinion of the medical establishment, meaning highly experienced and skilled doctors, or you, I’ll choose the doctors if you don’t mind.

BananaRepublic

And since this thread is about healthy eating, I’ve just cooked and eaten a vegetable omelette made with homegrown leeks, courgettes, butternut squash and chilli, with some Parmesan cheese to add flavour, and some toasted whole meal bread to fill. Pretty healthy in my opinion and very tasty.