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Weight loss/healthy eating help

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  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 31 August 2018 at 8:32AM
    I'd say you need to be on that old Slimming World Green Plan basically.

    I can't stand feeling hungry myself. My mother assures me she never had any problem getting me to eat my food at mealtimes:rotfl:

    That plan treats potatoes, bananas, eggs, grains (eg rice) and pasta as "free food" and one can have as much as wanted to eat.

    I think that's probably the only plan I could follow - as I find it boring, but at least I don't have to be hungry.

    The other possibility for you might be the WFPB diet (Whole Food Plant Based). That is an incidentally vegan diet - but it's designed basically to be healthy vegan, minus the oil. A LOT of people that eat that way find themselves losing weight without trying. The basic idea is to eat in a nutrient-dense way. You will find diagrams on there, for instance, that demonstrate how full your stomach is on a certain amount of oil (1-2 tablespoons) - ie it's basically empty. They then have a diagram of how full your stomach is after eating an equivalent number of calories in fresh fruit and vegetables (it's full).


    EDIT; Look on Facebook for the group "Whole-Food-Plant-Based-Diet.com" and join that. It's a closed group - so you'll need to join to read the posts/join in the discussion.
  • pollypenny
    pollypenny Posts: 29,432 Forumite
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    edited 31 August 2018 at 12:41PM
    My main objection to SW is that they deem potatoes as 'free food'.

    They were my original downfall. Now I probably have 100 grams or so about once a week. It's interesting that different ways of cooking the potatoes result in differing GI levels.

    I've recently noted many more articles advising limiting eating to an 8 hour period. That's my maintenance strategy. 16:8.
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  • Another Facebook group for the WFPB way of eating that contains a lot of how-to ideas:

    "Whole Food Plant Based No Oil Recipes" group on Facebook.

    It's a recently started-up group, but already has a lot of recipes on it. It's just about succeeded now in stopping people putting up piccies of food without giving an accompanying recipe - as the rules of the group dictate people MUST give a recipe for any meal they say they've had/show a photo of.
  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 31 August 2018 at 8:53AM
    Just checked out the post that is currently post 44 - it's one of several posts to get that "big booty" shape that has currently been imported into Britain if one wants the "big backside" look:(
  • maman
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    See, this is another thing. There’s nothing wrong with having biscuits on open access, as you say. I constantly have around 6 packets of biscuits in the house. Doesn’t mean I have to eat them. But funnily enough, when I was on a diet (best part of 20 years), I couldn’t sleep if there was any form of ‘junk’ in the house.

    There’s nothing wrong with eating to appetite. That’s how our bodies were designed.

    There’s also nothing wrong with sugar and/or fat.


    Surely that's because of how you feel about being on a 'diet'. SW never uses the word diet because of those negative connotations of deprivation. It doesn't matter which 'diet' someone choses or none, if you can't stop yourself eating biscuits you won't lose weight!:D


    I'm afraid that while you may have found a way of 'eating to appetite' it's well known that many people eat when they're not hungry or don't balance food groups.
    Are you sure they know what to eat? I see an awful lot of people eating junk food, and high fat food. I find a lot of food too sweet and/or rich. Ready meals tend to be full of sugar and fat. Why on earth does tomato sauce need sugar added? I suspect people become habituated to unhealthy food.

    One big problem is junk food at work. It is commonplace for there to be biscuits and cakes on open access. The unhealthiest condemn/torment the rest.


    This is true. SW have brought out a range of ready meals. They are a business after all and there was demand for them (as Weight Watchers had demonstrated) from people either in a hurry or with limited cooking skills. Personally I choose to cook from scratch and batch cook my own ready meals.


    I think it's commonplace to add a pinch of sugar to a tomato sauce whether a diet one or not. Some (especially cheaper) tins of tomatoes can be a bit sharp.


    Sorry to hear you find the Green plan boring money. I always think of it as a vegetarian option and there are lots of tasty veggie recipes around. Tonight we're having Veggie Chilli.:D
  • Probably find it "boring" because I use my Syns in such a way for breakfast and lunch that there aren't any left spare for dinner.

    Add that I do like a LOT of variety in my food - as much as I can manage within my "healthy vegetarian" way of eating.
  • One way to avoid feeling hungry (or at least, to be able to cope if you are feeling hungry), is to eat at set times. That way, if you feel hungry you know when the next meal will be, so psychologically you can cope better.

    A suggested routine -

    Breakfast 7.30
    Mid-morning snack 10.30
    Lunch 1.00
    Mid-afternoon snack 3.00
    Evening meal 6.00
    Supper 9.00

    That way you're never going more than 3 hours without something to eat. I would humbly suggest that feeling a little bit hungry is essential if you're going to achieve any meaningful weight loss. That's the time when the body uses up it's reserves.

    Personally, I hate feeling over-full.
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  • pollypenny
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    Just checked out the post that is currently post 44 - it's one of several posts to get that "big booty" shape that has currently been imported into Britain if one wants the "big backside" look:(



    Oh, god! I can't think of anything worse!

    That Kardashian woman is out of proportion. :D
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  • Anoneemoose
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    maman wrote: »
    Surely that's because of how you feel about being on a 'diet'. SW never uses the word diet because of those negative connotations of deprivation. It doesn't matter which 'diet' someone choses or none, if you can't stop yourself eating biscuits you won't lose weight!:D


    I'm afraid that while you may have found a way of 'eating to appetite' it's well known that many people eat when they're not hungry or don't balance food groups.




    This is true. SW have brought out a range of ready meals. They are a business after all and there was demand for them (as Weight Watchers had demonstrated) from people either in a hurry or with limited cooking skills. Personally I choose to cook from scratch and batch cook my own ready meals.


    I think it's commonplace to add a pinch of sugar to a tomato sauce whether a diet one or not. Some (especially cheaper) tins of tomatoes can be a bit sharp.


    Sorry to hear you find the Green plan boring money. I always think of it as a vegetarian option and there are lots of tasty veggie recipes around. Tonight we're having Veggie Chilli.:D

    You miss my point. People who truly eat to appetite generally don’t overeat. And if they can’t eat to appetite, that’s usually because of fear of deprivation, either from diets of because of their circumstances (like finances for example).

    SW IS a diet and the only reason it stays away from the negative connotations around such a word for business reasons, nothing else. They are unable to confirm what kind of long term success their members have, but only around 11% are target members. SW even skim over their long term success rates on their own website.

    https://www.slimmingworld.co.uk/health/how-sw-works/faqs.aspx

    There is no rhyme or reason why you are one of the special people who have managed to keep the weight off long term. It is literally pot luck. However, what is known is you are the exception not the rule.
  • madlyn
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    My current weekday eating times are....
    Breakfast 6.00am
    Snack 9.30/10.00am
    Lunch 12.00pm
    evening meal 5.00pm/5.30pm.
    Don't have an Afternoon snack and never have super.
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