Weight loss/healthy eating help

Anoneemoose

Nicki wrote: »

The thing is Anonemoose, you have quite a distinctive username and many of us will remember that you've started many threads on this board asking for advice on how to lose weight and rants about how much you dislike being overweight. With that background, and coupled with an insistence that diets and weight loss don't work for anyone (later modified to don't work for the majority) and aggressively cutting down anyone who disagrees with you, it's a fair conclusion to come to that you are unhappy with your own weight currently and your previous struggles to lose weight.

And how long ago are those posts from? I went through a lot BECAUSE of dieting and my previous desire to be slim again. It wasn’t until I chose the alternative to that that I finally found happiness and contentment. I’m really not sure why this is so hard to understand.

And it was not later modified to the majority, that came first. And then I accidentally left it out once! Whoops!

Anoneemoose

gettingtheresometime wrote: »

Well having lost 4.5st with SW I'm feeling pretty happy, and whilst I won't win any Miss Bikini contests, feel pretty sexy.

I wouldn't say I'm any happier than when I was larger...just pretty miffed that people judge me less now that I'm the size I am than when I was larger. As I said in my SW class quite recently (and it was universal agreed) fatism is the last ism that it's socially acceptable to demonstrate.

Anyway what ever route the OP takes it has to work for them.

I agree with the fatism issues. It really seems to be the worst a person can be according to some (and I don’t mean on here). There us so much ‘health concern trolling’ on social media and the like nowadays. It is however demonstrated on here just how hard it is for people to fathom that there are people that are happy regardless of their size.

I’m genuinely glad you’re happy. And you’re right, OP has to choose something right for them.

BananaRepublic

gettingtheresometime wrote: »

(and it was universal agreed) fatism is the last ism that it's socially acceptable to demonstrate.

Whilst I don’t condone abusing anyone for their weight, I can’t see that an anything goes attitude is healthy. Otherwise you end up with most people being obese. Unfortunately we do have an obesity epidemic in this country. And it is in part due to, or encouraged by, food manufacturers who push unhealthy but high profit foodstuffs.

Nicki

I think there is a tendency by those who are overweight (and I have a tendency to be overweight myself) to resist advice to lose weight for health reasons and categorise this as "fat shaming". My own view is that if losing some weight will cure, or greatly improve, an existing health issue then it's a no brainer that you should try this before more radical medical procedures.

You see this a lot with fertility issues. There is a huge amount of research which shows that if you are obese and lose 10% of your body weight, your fertility will be significantly boosted, and that IVF outcomes are significantly poorer for women with BMIs over 35. Despite this a lot of very large women complain they've been discriminated against or fat shamed when they've been told they must get their BMI down before they can be offered IVF on the NHS.

D_M_E

I'm a bit late to this thread, but here's a couple of suggestions -

For breakfast, try porage with a little salt - that means a very small sprinkle - and fat free yoghurt, such as Fage, and a bit of ground almonds.

Potatoes - try replacing these with swede.

madlyn

So since I started this thread a few things have changed.
The 1st one being I have not used the vending machine at work once, having porridge for breakfast keeps me feeling full for longer so not really needing a mid morning snack, but if I do I have a 70g bag of skinny popcorn and that tends to last me mon-fri.
finding it a struggle to add more veg to my diet however for my lunch Today I have carrot and red pepper sticks, cucumber, spring onion and radish with a few chunks of salami.
Still a long way to go but I feel pleased with my changes.

pumpkin89

Well done madlyn!

Those are all good changes and you come across as feeling happier / more in control of the situation.

It's often better to make a few changes at a time, as they're more likely to become habits you stick to. Keep up the good work

Stoke

Nicki wrote: »

I think there is a tendency by those who are overweight (and I have a tendency to be overweight myself) to resist advice to lose weight for health reasons and categorise this as "fat shaming". My own view is that if losing some weight will cure, or greatly improve, an existing health issue then it's a no brainer that you should try this before more radical medical procedures.

You see this a lot with fertility issues. There is a huge amount of research which shows that if you are obese and lose 10% of your body weight, your fertility will be significantly boosted, and that IVF outcomes are significantly poorer for women with BMIs over 35. Despite this a lot of very large women complain they've been discriminated against or fat shamed when they've been told they must get their BMI down before they can be offered IVF on the NHS.

Nicki, I do SW and contribute to the SW threads fairly regularly. I've successfully lost quite a bit of weight and hope to maintain this

You are spot on with your first paragraph in that we often make excuses rather than actually face it head on. I don't really like the term fat shaming, and I didn't particularly like it when I was overweight either, because it's become a one size fits all solution for honest criticism. I was overweight... I don't believe people telling me they are worried about me or suggesting that my diet isn't brilliant is fat shaming, but obviously there is a movement out there which is pushing that way of thinking.

I was 20 stone at my heaviest (I'm only 5ft9). I think my BMI wasn't far off 40. I openly admit that I have an unhealthy relationship with food, that is why I got fat in the first place. I honestly believe that most healthy (looking) people also have an unhealthy relationship with food, they just don't know it or see it. My mother is a perfect example. She weighs probably 8-9 stone. Has a superb 'figure' if you will, for her age, and she eats lots of nuts, berries, plenty of healthy stuff.... when it comes to things like pudding or cake, it's 2, sometimes 3 slices? She might look visibly healthy, but to me that's still an unhealthy shock to your body. It's a high amount of fat and sugar, all in one time. I think she just probably burns it and maintains a healthy weight because she doesn't do it as often as some.

I was never unhappy or sad about being overweight (I'm actually more unhappy now, seeing how it has affected my body in potentially permanent ways). I was a generally happy person..... but I was always willing to make excuses and resist advice. My parents were very worried about my weight, as were friends and family but I often blamed it on "drinking too much" or "working an 8 hour sedentary job". I have cut back on my drinking significantly, but my job is exactly the same and I play the same amount of football (albeit with massive amounts more mobility). I was simply making poor excuses for, in my opinion, my lack of discipline. I do go for the occasional run now, but it's all diet really and simply cutting out unnecessary crud.

Good luck anyway

moneyistooshorttomention

Stoke - re your mother - she probably does "programme in" that cake into the overall equation.

My own mother is tiny (she'd be looking for size 6/maybe even size 4 clothes these days - as she is real size 8).

In her case - she likes a glass or two of wine most days. But she eats like an absolute sparrow (not healthily, I'm afraid, in her case:(). So she's covered the calories she gets from wine another way.

I wouldnt "eat like a sparrow" myself - I get too hungry for that. So I eat until I'm not hungry anymore - but I've now learnt one of the single biggest things one can do is to stop eating when one is no longer hungry/doing so automatically. For instance, when I go out for coffee and it's one of those places where they automatically bring a biscuit or something with it - then I've learnt to give them back the biscuit instantly - so I don't just eat it automatically (or it gets taken and eaten automatically by anyone else with me - given that most people need to lose weight these days).

I was travelling yesterday and had to buy a roll or sandwich en route - so bought one of those filled long type rolls and I'd stopped feeling hungry halfway through it and so just left the rest, rather than carrying on eating. A little peckishness later on was translated into "Have some water to drink" or "Have a banana I'd got on me".

I've dropped one clothes size and two more to go and I figure just the combination of the way I eat (genuinely) healthily and I've now introduced "conscious eating" (ie stopping eating when I'm not hungry any more) should be sufficient to ensure I keep my figure then (ie which used to be/will again be 8.5 stone - so very similar to your mothers).

BananaRepublic

"Eats like a sparrow"

If the sparrows in my garden are typical, the above means eat as much as possible as often as possible, especially my seedlings and beetroot leaves ... No wonder 'our' sparrows bounce around full of the joys of life. The little rascals discovered that by sitting on veg netting, their weight would push it down such that they could nibble the beetroot leaves through the netting.