OK Ryanair, I’ll pay your blood money

ChrisK....._3

I read that RA revised their policy to make sure parents and children sat together because of the hoooooo haaaaa and delays of this being fought out actually on the plane

VfM4meplse wrote: »

Agreed, for adults. However it becomes problematic when travelling on a budget as a single adult with young children, and someone refuses to budge despite your obvious predicament. I find less experienced travellers [STRIKE]the most selfish of the lot[/STRIKE] far less willing to help others. Swapping more than once per flight is highly unlikely anyway.

shaun_from_Africa

NoodleDoodleMan wrote: »

I was under the impression the CAA had rules in place to ensure at least one adult was seated with children if the whole group was not seated together ?

The actual CAA guidelines only state that young children should ideally be in the same row as an accompanying adult and if this can't be done, then no more than one row away so technically if a child was in a window seat and an accompanying adult was in the window seat on the opposite side of the aircraft, this would be okay as far as the CAA are concerned.

richardw

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

The actual CAA guidelines only state that young children should ideally be in the same row as an accompanying adult and if this can't be done, then no more than one row away so technically if a child was in a window seat and an accompanying adult was in the window seat on the opposite side of the aircraft, this would be okay as far as the CAA are concerned.

....and OK as far as the UK government are concerned as well.

The CAA and UK government are completely useless on aviation safety enforcement. This is the problem.

richardw

Wheres_My_Cashback wrote: »

...What stats do you have to say they are not safe ? No, you don't because there are none. RYR has an exemplary safety record doesn't it.

What has it got to do with the CAA? RYR aircraft are not regulated by the CAA as they are registered in Ireland and operate on an Irish AOC, therefore regulated by the IAA.
The CAA recommendations are only applicable to British reg'd aircraft.

Until the inevitable accident happens, likely to be just as bad as the British Airtours Manchester accident. The aircraft evacuation won’t be quick enough.

Ryanair operates in a similar way to easyJet at Stansted and other UK airports, full CAA rules should apply to both, but the incompetent UK government ignores this.

steve1500

[QUOTE=
What has it got to do with the CAA? RYR aircraft are not regulated by the CAA as they are registered in Ireland and operate on an Irish AOC, therefore regulated by the IAA.
The CAA recommendations are only applicable to British reg'd aircraft.[/QUOTE]


I would very surprised if RA where not required to comply with any CAA rules


The fact that the CAA don't enforce them is a completely different matter.

stoneman

ChrisK..... wrote: »

Oh the Irony of the OPs signature

You still don't get it do you. ITS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY. It's about safety, and it never really dawned on me until a recent turbulent flight we endured.

And it's not about children, it's about everyone. As I posted upthread on our return flight (which I paid for us to sit together) there must have been 20 or so people standing on the tarmac waiting for the rest of their party to join them. I have never seen this on any other airline I have flown with.

INTENTIONALLY seating people as far apart as they can then saying in big red words above the boarding pass "you are seated apart, pay x amount and we'll seat you together" is a disgrace because it's dangerous in the event of an incident.

Because at least 20 people decided not to pay that extra on the flight I just came off.

JimmyTheWig

stoneman wrote: »

Because at least 20 people decided not to pay that extra on the flight I just came off.

This is exactly the point. Stoneman can pay the money to be seated with his family. But in an emergency evacuation may still be held up by those 20 people who didn't.

steve1500

Interestingly, been reserving my seats for a Virgin flight next year, for which I don't have to pay - not that it should matter - got this message, before I could select the seats



Are you flying with kids?
It is a legislative requirement that children (under 12), are seated where they can be supervised by an accompanying adult.
Children (under 12) are required to be seated next to at least one adult that they're travelling with. “Next to” can be:

• Across the aisle
• In front of
• Behind, or
• Adjacent to

Ganga

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

This is exactly the point. Stoneman can pay the money to be seated with his family. But in an emergency evacuation may still be held up by those 20 people who didn't.

I have never been on an aircraft that has had an emergency evacuation and hope i never will but i would imagine it would be chaotic due to the elderly and infirm passengers ( i am 68 and not being vindictive )the passengers who want to collect their hand luggage,cameras etc,and the genral panic so saying that families who are split up ( i am talking about grown-ups )will cause problems is wrong.

jpsartre

Ganga wrote: »

I have never been on an aircraft that has had an emergency evacuation and hope i never will but i would imagine it would be chaotic due to the elderly and infirm passengers ( i am 68 and not being vindictive )the passengers who want to collect their hand luggage,cameras etc,and the genral panic so saying that families who are split up ( i am talking about grown-ups )will cause problems is wrong.

How does anything you've said show that it's wrong? Your argument seems to be that because elderly passengers and people retrieving handluggage can slow down evacuation, then other things won't. Obviously this doesn't follow.