OK Ryanair, I’ll pay your blood money

jpsartre

stoneman wrote: »

Shake My Head

Why? You disagree? I wasn't having a go at you by the way, your opinion of Ryanair in the post I was responding to pretty much exactly mirrors my own. But nobody is forced to fly with them which it seems people in here sometimes forget.

f4phixeruk

jpsartre wrote: »

Don't fly? It's not a human right to be able to use air transport to every destination.

Ah but it is in this day and age. When the United Nations says that broadband is a basic human right :wall::wall::wall:


https://www.forbes.com/sites/randalllane/2011/11/15/the-united-nations-says-broadband-is-basic-human-right/#4ce84c625daa

stoneman

jpsartre wrote: »

Why? You disagree? I wasn't having a go at you by the way, your opinion of Ryanair in the post I was responding to pretty much exactly mirrors my own. But nobody is forced to fly with them which it seems people in here sometimes forget.

That's not what you said though. You suggested that there are other ways than flying to get to Barcelona/Faro/Tenerife etc. Unless I read it wrong.

stoneman

NoodleDoodleMan wrote: »

Can you please advise which of the other broadly comparable airlines allows punters to choose their seats at no additional charge?

Then we can all fly with these carriers - problem solved.

AFAIK Thomas Cook, TUI, Jet2 and EasyJet all charge over and above the basic ticket price for pre-booking seats of choice.

Which although may be true, do they deliberately seat you far apart or do you sometimes get seated together. If it's the former, then its a disgrace and an attempt to garner more money from you at the cost of safety

jpsartre

stoneman wrote: »

That's not what you said though. You suggested that there are other ways than flying to get to Barcelona/Faro/Tenerife etc. Unless I read it wrong.

What I meant was: Don't fly with Ryanair. Whether that means getting to your desired destination in some other way, staying at home, or going someplace else where another airline operates I left open.

NoodleDoodleMan

Which although may be true, do they deliberately seat you far apart or do you sometimes get seated together. If it's the former, then its a disgrace and an attempt to garner more money from you at the cost of safety

I was a bit slow on the uptake initially, thought it was simply another "we hate Ryanair" thread based on the inconvenience of not seating together.

The safety issue brings another dimension to it - and if Ryanair are deliberately separating families with young children to ensure they get extra revenue then that's deplorable.

I was under the impression the CAA had rules in place to ensure at least one adult was seated with children if the whole group was not seated together ?

This is what I was invited to submit comments to :

https://consultations.caa.co.uk/policy-development/airline-seating-allocations/

jpsartre

NoodleDoodleMan wrote: »

The safety issue brings another dimension to it - and if Ryanair are deliberately separating families with young children to ensure they get extra revenue then that's deplorable.

Depends what you mean by 'young children'. Seat selection is compulsary for an adult travelling with a child younger than 12 (the child's seat can be selected free-of-charge). So every child under 12 will be seated next to an accompanying adult.

yellowmug

I would, yes, and I would imagine it'd be the same with any other parent. It's how we're programmed, how we've managed to survive as a species for millions of years.

I would also pay the few quid - so we're talking about a situation that wouldn't be likely to happen. But it wouldn't be me that would be setting up the dangerous situation, it'd be the airline, and it shouldn't be allowed.

Wheres_My_Cashback

stoneman wrote: »

surprised the CAA or whoever regulates this sort of thing hasn!!!8217;t clamped down on it.

OK I get it, this is how companies make money, but at the cost of putting lives at risk?

Let me ask you something, if God forbid the plane you are on has to evacuate quickly and you are in row 5, OH in row 25 and son/daughter in row 15, how many of you wouldn!!!8217;t bat an eyelid and just get yourself off if say there was a fire/smoke/water, without checking on your loved ones, not me that!!!8217;s for sure. So now panic sets in and the evacuation stalls, aisle gets blocked with people not just getting the heck off, and a potential catastrophic event happens.



So as I started this rant with an OTT title I!!!8217;ll repeat it. In future I!!!8217;ll pay your lousy few extra quid, because the mental health and safety of my loved ones outweighs anything, and that to me is blood money.

Yep, vastly OTT. Your wife is a grown adult and shouldn't need you to hold her hand whilst flying. That is not the fault of RYR. If you were concerned about her welfare paying a few pounds to comfort her wouldn't matter?
Children will usually be sat next/near to one of their parents if not together with one responsible adult.

richardw wrote: »

I will not. I do not fly Ryanair anymore.

I agree and have said it many times. Ryanair is a serious accident waiting to happen, it will be on the ground with evacuation being too slow because of too many bags in the cabin and people looking for their friends and family. The UK CAA and government is like a chocolate teapot, absolutely useless.

I used to enjoy trips to places I had never heard of and the run from the plane on a Sunday night to catch the last Stansted Express train.

Just put the fares up or just park the planes, but be safe at the end of the day.

What stats do you have to say they are not safe ? No, you don't because there are none. RYR has an exemplary safety record doesn't it.

steve1500 wrote: »

This is exactly why the CAA say families should be sat together, but until the CAA make it compulsory RA will continue to keep people apart.


I haven't flown with them since the Volcanic Ash episode.

What has it got to do with the CAA? RYR aircraft are not regulated by the CAA as they are registered in Ireland and operate on an Irish AOC, therefore regulated by the IAA.
The CAA recommendations are only applicable to British reg'd aircraft.

ChrisK....._3

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stoneman wrote: »

The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run, and if you do that you will have enough to pay for something better.