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How to hurt the parking companies?

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  • NeilCr
    NeilCr Posts: 4,430 Forumite
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    edited 18 August 2018 at 6:39PM
    Is there really that much selfish parking? Perhaps because I live in an area where there are not many pay and display car parks and the supermarket car parks are mainly free all day I don't see it. You can get a parking spot in the lead up to Christmas without any problems. It sounds as if you live in an area that attracts a lot of day trippers.

    Yep.

    We have a big parking problem down here. Not just day trippers but residents too. I go past a small school on my way out - at the end of that road is a right turn on to a one way street. There are yellow lines on the corners so you have a view of oncoming traffic. Invariably, a car or van is parked on those lines so you cannot see anything at all. I've had a number of near misses as I've tried to creep out slowly. People cheer wardens when they see them ticketing the culprits

    And I live on an estate with very limited resident parking. As others will know we had someone who regularly parked in a way that would impede access for emergency vehicles and waste disposal lorries.

    I don't always see eye to eye with Beamer (Merc)guy but I fully agree with his comments about different experiences. It's not easy - too many cars not enough parking. But, a significant minority of people (be they trippers or residents) do not care about anyone else but themselves.

    You are lucky. From where I sit anyway!

    To add.

    On my way out for lunch today I walked by Waitrose. There were people driving round trying to find a place to park as it was full. You can see inside the shop and, while, it was busy it was pretty clear that the customers inside didn't equate to the cars outside.
  • The only way to hurt the PPC,s is to hurt the retailers who employ them and the way to really do this is to boycott their establishments. My PCN is ffrom the infamous Peel centre, I will never shop there again, if a couple of hundred thousand people thought the same way, Excel parking would soon be kicked out of there, where money is concerned retailers move faster than a bee stung stallion!.


    Course I know it wont happen 98% of the people who shop there are Sheep (if the paid for parking ticket statistics are anything to go by)
  • NeilCr
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    The only way to hurt the PPC,s is to hurt the retailers who employ them and the way to really do this is to boycott their establishments. My PCN is ffrom the infamous Peel centre, I will never shop there again, if a couple of hundred thousand people thought the same way, Excel parking would soon be kicked out of there, where money is concerned retailers move faster than a bee stung stallion!.


    Course I know it wont happen 98% of the people who shop there are Sheep (if the paid for parking ticket statistics are anything to go by)

    Can I ask where you got your stats from please?.

    Thanks
  • abedegno
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    NeilCr wrote: »
    I know that no parking company has information on me. Why should I get involved and make a frivolous GDPR request?.

    Don't be so sure - these companies have extensive detail of your vehicle's movement (and thus yours) through their network of ANPR cameras - the response I received from ParkingEye to my subject access request was really quite alarming - 12 months of my movements to various locations around the country.
  • NeilCr
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    abedegno wrote: »
    Don't be so sure - these companies have extensive detail of your vehicle's movement (and thus yours) through their network of ANPR cameras - the response I received from ParkingEye to my subject access request was really quite alarming - 12 months of my movements to various locations around the country.


    My car does very, very little mileage indeed. I use one car park, regularly - my local Waitrose which doesn't have ANPR - and I haven't driven out of my home area for a number of years. I did use to use a Morrison's car park on occasions and before that a local council one. Neither with ANPR.

    So I do think it unlikely. But, to be honest, even if they know that I have parked in A for a while it doesn't bother me.

    It would be a frivolous request and I am not in the business of those.
  • NeilCr wrote: »
    Can I ask where you got your stats from please?.

    Thanks


    I read somewhere (don't think it was on here) that Excel parking Peel centre generates a 98% revenue off tickets they issue, course that could have meant machine tickets. Anyway stat probably not important but would be better if they only made 0.98% lol we live in hope
  • Snakes_Belly
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    The Peel Centre is a notorious hotspot. The PMB debate did discuss the monitoring of hotspots.

    Nolite te bast--des carborundorum.
  • The only way is to hurt the business that engage them.
    Especially the smaller business that would suffer from a drop in footfall.

    I refuse to use any business that uses an 'ethical' parking operator. They masquerade as Parking control but are no more than scammers.

    Once a site dries up - ie customers get used to the rules, they change the rules by changing the small print.

    Parking used to be free after 6pm suddenly becomes 8pm, boom lots of tickets. Then it becomes one hour free or you need a receipt or you need to put your reg in a poxy ipad that doesn't work.

    T&Cs that say you can't park if THEIR machines don't work - they could deliberately disable a parking machine then ticket everyone who uses the car park - serious amount of income all from the comfort of their office.

    Read the terms, they do everything to ensure invoices (pcn's) can be issued.

    Unless you read the signs on EVERY visit to EVERY car park, filing station, business park and retail park then you are very likely going to get a demand for £100 sometime and it gets more likely as these thieving scrotes think of more inventive ways for you to breach their nasty little rules by leveraging technology such as ANPR.
    Please read the stickies, your question and situation will have been covered before. Let's keep the board clear for the most experienced members to help genuine new and interesting situations. :j
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,811 Forumite
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    ^^ Great post luverlyjubbly ^^ :T
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Bit of a rant but things are getting ridiculous.

    Clamping was bad enough but at least they needed people on the ground and could only clamp so many cars. Now there are no limits - the clamp has been replaced by ANPR, hidden signs, abuse of the County Court system and ccjs that ultimately clamp your entire life.

    Every driver is now a likely victim and in particular, people who aren't strong-willed and financially able are being ROBBED in plain sight.

    I'm setting up a local group to bring attention to one of my local operators, retailers will be invited so they understand the aggrevation caused.

    Retailers with scam ppcs should have it mentioned on their Facebook pages. When the topics focus more on the shoddy parking treatment than their menu, services and facilities then they will have to act.
    Please read the stickies, your question and situation will have been covered before. Let's keep the board clear for the most experienced members to help genuine new and interesting situations. :j
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