Nightmare with rubbish collections for ground floor conversion flat with no front and rear garden

mitkx

fairy_lights wrote: »

I would respond with a hard 'No'.
It's not your fault that your tenant can't recycle/deal with her own waste/buy herself a bigger bin and it shouldn't be your responsibility to find a solution for her. If she wants to approach local businesses about using their bin space fair enough, but why should it have anything to do with you?

I have not initially said no but have asked the letting agent to accompany myself and the son-in-law (so effectively playing a mediator role).

StumpyPumpy

mitkx wrote: »

There is a street bin outside the shop for anything that is ultra smelly. All smelly uneaten food was occasionally go in there late at night.

A council can, and some do, prosecute you for using a litter bin for household waste. Deliberate non-local to you example (you will be able to find a similar thing for your area)

I don't want to get into an argument over whether they would do so and "how would they know who it was?". However I know some councils have successfully prosecuted for this and you certainly don't want to be on record as suggesting it as a solution to a tenant.

SP

Money_maker

mitkx wrote: »

The Letting Agent is contacting the individual units in the Business Park next door and hoping they say yes to allowing the tenant to store her bin on one of their units. This providing she is discreet and tidy.

So did they do this? If so, why do they need you and SIL there?

gingercordial

mitkx wrote: »

Here is the picture off googlemaps and the plan from land registry.
You will be able to tell from the picture that there is absolutely no where to do this.

The local neighbours only take their bins out on collection day and have rear gardens as you can tell from the land registry cut out where as the road into the business park would disect any garden were it there.

At the front there's a bit where it looks like the corner has been chopped off, where the white thing is that is presumably utilities-related.

It seems the Post Office have their National Lottery sign there but do they have any legal right to do so if it is just public highway? Would the council accept a small wheelie bin being put there as it is sort of out of the way (you'd need a bin lock on it if the public one is so overused)? It would be better if the PO would agree to move their sign back a bit, but probably not even necessary if it is one of the slimline wheelie bins as they would both fit.

I sympathise - I used to live in a flat with direct access to a road like that so no room for bins. Thankfully in our case the landlord simply told us to use the commercial bins of the business next door and nobody ever objected, though I have no idea if they had an agreement or if they just never noticed as we usually put them out in the evenings.

lisyloo

On my road we each have two bins outside on the pavement.

Is there enough room for a wheelchair/pram to get through if someone parks adjacent?

mitkx

Sunny_Intervals wrote: »

That's a really odd layout. I can see there's a door on the StreetView photo that's been bricked up. Is the new door at the side/rear of the property? Or do you share the doorway with the PO?


On the plan, I assume the blue bit is the flat. What is the white area with the red boundary?

The new door (green door) is at the side of the property and opens out onto the access road into the business park.

The white area with the red boundary is an exclusion from the title. It once belonged to the flat when it was a whole house but was sold off some time ago before I owned the flat. The land registry title plan states that this land in white and red is to be excluded from the absolute title.

mitkx

Money_maker wrote: »

So did they do this? If so, why do they need you and SIL there?

I am not sure if they have done this or not. I have asked the letting agent to come to any meeting I have with the son-in-law. Firstly, the son in law is not the tenant, and secondly, the letting agent should officiate any meeting between myself and the tenant.

marliepanda

Sunny_Intervals wrote: »

Thanks. It seems daft to me that the PO can stick a load of signs advertising gambling and ice cream on the public pavement right in front of your flat, but you can't have a small bin on that same darker area (where the lottery sign is now)

The shop most likely has to have planning permission to have those a boards there. That would not be granted for a wheelie bin.

mitkx

marliepanda wrote: »

The shop most likely has to have planning permission to have those a boards there. That would not be granted for a wheelie bin.

Is it a given granted that the shop was given planning permission to erect their advertising signs outside my bay window by the council?

Would this not pose a hazard to people using the pavement (supposing wheelie bins are not allowed to be on the pavement for this reason).

Is it worth raising this point with the council?

marliepanda

mitkx wrote: »

Is it a given granted that the shop was given planning permission to erect their advertising signs outside my bay window by the council?

Would this not pose a hazard to people using the pavement (supposing wheelie bins are not allowed to be on the pavement for this reason).

Is it worth raising this point with the council?

It!!!8217;s on council land, and doesn;t impact your bay window. You have no say over what happens on Other people!s land to an extent.

If it was your shop Im sure you wouldnt want your shop front blocked by wheelie bins.

Being in the way is one reason, they are not in the way or obstructing a pavement. It does not set a precedent for a wheelie bin.