BW Legal ringing family members

clairey262

So as advised from you all I have ignored all debt chasing letters from NCP & Trace Debt recovery.. I have since received my first letter from BW legal. I think it must be the LBC as they have advised since I have failed to make payment or raise an appeal within 28 days from the date of the PCN (i did straight away but it was rejected as we did it on ncp website and havnt got a copy of it) therefore I am required to make full payment within 16 days else they will commence legal proceedings against me in the county court and will be served with a Letter Of Claim pursuant to the pre-action protocol for debt claims bla bla bla but since receiving this letter my husband and parents at another address have received phone calls from the BW legal advising I need to speak to them ASAP. I have read the Newbies!!! Private!!! parking ticket new or old #2 post written from coupon-mad and found a reply to send regarding ANPR signage etc but will all the to and from emails and letters carry on for a couple of months / years and keep getting harressed by phone calls until I pay it ? When do they give up ?? Or will I actually face court in which it would be easier to just pay it now and get them off mine and my families backs?

beamerguy

clairey262 wrote: »

So as advised from you all I have ignored all debt chasing letters from NCP & Trace Debt recovery.. I have since received my first letter from BW legal. I think it must be the LBC as they have advised since I have failed to make payment or raise an appeal within 28 days from the date of the PCN (i did straight away but it was rejected as we did it on ncp website and havnt got a copy of it) therefore I am required to make full payment within 16 days else they will commence legal proceedings against me in the county court and will be served with a Letter Of Claim pursuant to the pre-action protocol for debt claims bla bla bla but since receiving this letter my husband and parents at another address have received phone calls from the BW legal advising I need to speak to them ASAP. I have read the Newbies!!! Private!!! parking ticket new or old #2 post written from coupon-mad and found a reply to send regarding ANPR signage etc but will all the to and from emails and letters carry on for a couple of months / years and keep getting harressed by phone calls until I pay it ? When do they give up ?? Or will I actually face court in which it would be easier to just pay it now and get them off mine and my families backs?

Unless they send a proper LBA giving you proof of
their claim, followed by 30 days to reply, there is nothing
they can do and they are behaving
like wild dogs and that demands a complaint to the SRA
as they are harassing your family.

Do your family feel threatened in any way by these phone
calls, if so make a police complaint, you will get a ref
number.

DO NOT PAY THESE ROBBERS, they have given you the
perfect defence to put in front of a judge who will not take
kindly to such bad behaviour

Contact your MP urgently and issue a severe complaint.

BWLegal must be very hard up at present

System

Call National Debt Line (Freephone) or use their letter. Calling family members is harassment

https://www.nationaldebtline.org/EW/sampleletters/Pages/Creditor-harassment-warning-(sole-name).aspx

They may claim that as this is an alleged debt they are not covered by the legislation but you should harass them back with complaints to Trading Standards, the ICO for misuse of data, and your MP.

If you let them away with it, they will continue.

clairey262

Trying to drafting a letter to send back to BW Legal but quick question: I!!!8217;ve copied the draft letter from here to respond to a LBC but what happens if I havnt asked spoke to anyone and asked for evidence of photos etc? NCP sent me photos of the car driving out the carpark on the ANPR camera when I first received my notice.

!!!8220;When your client's debt collectors first started contacting me, I asked them for details of the basis upon which money was being claimed, including all photographs taken of the vehicle at the relevant time!!!8221;
??

Quentin

This sounds a threatening debt collection letter rather than a LBC

Ignore everything except a lbcca or Court correspondence is the advice here when dealing with debt collectors


(Block their calls)

beamerguy

clairey262 wrote: »

Trying to drafting a letter to send back to BW Legal but quick question: I!!!8217;ve copied the draft letter from here to respond to a LBC but what happens if I havnt asked spoke to anyone and asked for evidence of photos etc? NCP sent me photos of the car driving out the carpark on the ANPR camera when I first received my notice.

!!!8220;When your client's debt collectors first started contacting me, I asked them for details of the basis upon which money was being claimed, including all photographs taken of the vehicle at the relevant time!!!8221;
??

Why would you even think of sending BWLegal a letter
after they harassed your family ???
Have you spoken to your MP or Trading Standards about this ?

Any LBC must by law show you proof of their claim and then give you 30 days to respond ... is that what you have ?

Two separate issues here
The harassment of BWLegal which must be reported
The actual claim

You need to understand that BWLegal are not real solicitors
as you and I know them, a real solicitor would not come
out with the rubbish that BWLegal does.

BWLegal send "daily rental advocates" to court and then wonder
why a judge whoops them and dismisses the claim

At least BWLegal is now in the eyes of the government

ocean88

Same thing happened to me BW sent letters to be people connected to me they are not even at my address! Threatening letters. It's part of the harassment process to scare you into paying.
Don't give this robbers an inch. After 12 months they will give up.

I was just reading about Parking Eye trying to take a person to court about overstaying in a motorway rest stop by 15mins. They didn't even bother to turn upto court so had to pay the costs of the defendant plus compensation.

beamerguy

ocean88 wrote: »

Don't give this robbers an inch. After 12 months they will give up.

WRONG .... BWLegal are a vindictive firm and we see
on here, they will try a claim, anything up to 6 years

Do not advise others that they will go away ???? BAD ADVICE

If you have had problems with BWLegal, they have 6 years
to come and get you

The_Deep

Make a formal complaint to the SRA that they are behaving in an unsolicitorly manner and bringing the profession into disrepute. It could severely embarrass them, and will certainly cost them money to field it..

https://www.sra.org.uk/home/home.page

This is an entirely unregulated industry which is scamming the public with inflated claims for minor breaches of contracts for alleged parking offences, aided and abetted by a handful of low-rent solicitors.

Parking Eye, CPM, Smart, and another company have already been named and shamed, as has Gladstones Solicitors, and BW Legal, (these two law firms take hundreds of these cases to court each year). They lose most of them, and have been reported to the regulatory authority by an M.P. for unprofessional conduct

Hospital car parks and residential complex tickets have been especially mentioned.

The problem has become so rampant that MPs have agreed to enact a Bill to regulate these scammers. Watch the video of the Second Reading in the House of Commons recently

http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41 recently.

and complain in the most robust terms to your MP. With a fair wind they will be out of business by Christmas.

clairey262

So ive been expecting this as ive ignored every single thing i've had so far but I have recieved my LBC with all the forms attached. Ive read up on everything but wanted to know do I reply to BW legal asking for evidence first from NCP or shall I just go straight in with the LBC reply about ANPR tickets and lack of compliance with the DPA in handling data and properly informing motorists about SARs? Copied from the newbies section
My PCN is from ANPR camera seeing me drive in at 15.48 and driving out at 17.02 after purchasing a 1 hour ticket. Even with 10 mins grace I am still 4 mins over. I argued my case in my appeal but they said with the time on the ticket I am still 1 minute late. If this went to court and they found in my appeal that the words wrote; 'I' spent several minutes driving around the heavy snow trying to find a parking bay; would I lose my case for saying i ? They are also still harassing my husband so I need to send a complaint!

Quentin

Responding to a LBCCA is covered in detail in the newbies faq thread #2


That post covers a court claim from the lbcca right through to the hearing


(Ignore the contribution in #7 above)