Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

Herzlos

A_Pandiculation wrote: »

You've never heard the phrase "flogging a dead horse"? Round two: May 199 votes, Leadsom 84 votes. Leadsom did the honorable thing, simple as.There is no way she could have won.

Maybe. I'll concede that one.

May has managed to actually produce a supposed "deal" that is actually worse than no deal., agreed by MP's of all persuasions too. I find it strange that people here claim not to see that ...... oh hold on, remainer selective comprehension strikes again.

There's no remainer selective comprehension here. Mays incompetence has nothing to do with her being a "Remainer". If she'd been a reluctant "Leaver" she'd have been as bad.



Though I'm not sure it is actually worse than a no deal. It's still a terrible deal though but realistically the best anyone could manage in her situation.

andrewf75

A_Pandiculation wrote: »

What a pile of doo-doos!
Another remainer dreaming ......... and deliberately misinterpreting the wishes of MP's too.
I particularly like how you think you know how Brexit would have gone were another in charge instead and then you ignore the ERG, a group formed by pro-Brexit MP's in your haste to decry Brexit.
The above quoted interpretation of events is about as sound as that of other clairvoyant, Russell Grant.

I'm not in a haste to decry Brexit at all. I see a few advantages of it and unlike you I have spent a great deal of time trying to understand and respect the other sides views.

May's position has been weak for so long, but no one else wants to take responsibility. The trouble is all the possible advantages of Brexit are long term.

And I haven't ignored the ERG, I mentioned Rees Mogg as one who would have taken a different approach.

BucksLady

The press keep banging on about the UK heading for a 'constitutional crisis'. Really? I thought it had already happened.

gfplux

I think there is a good chance the deal will be voted through on December 11th.
It may look unlikely at the moment but the prospect of a no deal surely will pile the pressure on MP’s from Industry and their constituents.

I understand many Brexiters have jobs and will fear for those jobs (I think) if their is no deal at the end of March 2019.
The only Brexiters calling for Britain to walk away must be unemployed or are independently wealthy.

However Industry that can action contingency plans must be doing so as I write.
Many Brexiters and Remainers should also consider the effect on their pensions if their is a no deal.

lisyloo

Many Brexiters and Remainers should also consider the effect on their pensions if their is a no deal.

Mine tends to go up when the £ falls but that is (of course) down to the way it is invested.

Thrugelmir

andrewf75 wrote: »

May's position has been weak for so long

So was Churchill's. Some brave decisions fortunately turned out for the best. Though history has buried and blurred the very fine line between success and failure.

chucknorris

gfplux wrote: »

Many Brexiters and Remainers should also consider the effect on their pensions if their is a no deal.

If there was no deal, I would expect my equities (both in and outside of my pension wrapper) to be considerably boosted, the other side of the coin is that I would expect my investment properties to fall, hopefully between the two I have decent portfolio damage limitation.

wunferall

Another ship has been stranded for a week because they rescued some migrants off the north African coast.

The plight of the Nuestra Senora de Loreto trawler has deepened in recent days, with the Spanish government saying it is concerned about the lack of food and fuel on board amid worsening weather.

Yes, very concerned the Spanish government are.
So concerned that they keep asking Malta or Italy to take (wait for it) all twelve migrants!
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/article222422115.html

https://www.thelocal.es/20181128/spanish-fishing-vessel-in-the-lurch-after-rescuing-12-migrants

wunferall

gfplux wrote: »

I think there is a good chance the deal will be voted through on December 11th.
It may look unlikely at the moment but the prospect of a no deal surely will pile the pressure on MP’s from Industry and their constituents.
It is unlikely. There's a "Great Brexit Betrayal March" a week on Sunday. Keep an eye on it & see if you still think the same afterwards.

I understand many Brexiters have jobs and will fear for those jobs (I think) if their is no deal at the end of March 2019.
The only Brexiters calling for Britain to walk away must be unemployed or are independently wealthy.
Typical remainer wishful thinking. No, if you could listen to people here in the UK you'll hear them say they just want out of the despotic lot basically is the precis of what I've seen on news reports etc. I suppose being so far away you don't see that.

However Industry that can action contingency plans must be doing so as I write.
It's been said before here; sensible business has been preparing.
Many Brexiters and Remainers should also consider the effect on their pensions if their is a no deal.

Previous governments have had far greater effects on pensions as you should well know with Gordon Brown's pension tax raid being only one example.
As other posts say, there's as much chance that pensions will see a boost.

BucksLady

Andrea Leadsom was an ardent leaver and so I'm really surprised that she didn't play a role in actually negotiating a deal with the EU. I think she would certainly have done a better job than David D or Dominic Raab. I think she's very likeable, could probably charm the bees from the trees, but would stand her ground when it became necessary to do so. During the Brexit campaign I was impressed by the depth of her knowledge in all areas of disussion - had never even seen/heard about her until then.