Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

Herzlos

Science and technology minister has quit as well now.

Seems we're going to do our own satellite, with £92m spent determining if it's feasible, because we aren't allowed access to the EU only parts of Galileo.

buglawton

Yes, shame that people like Sam Gyimah can't find a place in the government as-is. Hope very much there'll be a place at the top table in some future British government for him and more talented people like him.

Arklight

Herzlos wrote: »

Science and technology minister has quit as well now.

Seems we're going to do our own satellite, with £92m spent determining if it's feasible, because we aren't allowed access to the EU only parts of Galileo.

We have to spend £92m to find out we don't have another £5.2bn to build our own GPS system?

Well that does sound like something the Tories would do.

Maybe they can find out we can't build a base on the moon either, at the same time.

Galileo, defence, our economy, free movement, research collaboration, British involvement in the ESA. It's so heart breaking what these complete cretins are doing.

Brexit is like watching a bunch of gibbering monkeys smashing the family china and not being able to do anything.

Herzlos

We're also at risk of satellite brain drain; the Galileo monitoring station we have is moving to Spain, and only EU firms can get contracts on the project, so we may start seeing specialists move into the EU unless we can get then to work on our system instead.

It's such a pointless waste. This is still something we lead the world at but are making ourselves irrelevang in unless we commit to spending billions on yet another duplicate system.

And it's not as if we can't use Galileo anyway; we can use it for location like we do with GPS, but from the outside we can't get access to the internals, control or (I think) the super high resolution stuff.

Lornapink

Japan is currently collaborating with the EU on a new mission to Mercury.


https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/10/20/national/science-health/europe-japan-prepare-spacecraft-seven-year-journey-mercury/#.XAJkgsuNw5s


In the real world away from Project Fear, independent nations collaborate all the time with the EU.


If the EU no longer wishes to collaborate on Galileo, despite us being 1 of only 3 EU nations delivering on the NATO spending commitment, then we should back Trump's calls for the irresponsible EU to meet it's NATO spending imperatives. We also are members of the Anglo-sphere 5 Eyes defence system don't forget. Imagine the hit to the wobbly EU with Italy close to imploding if we took our £39bn off the table and backed Trumps defence spending calls. The EU economy would take a double hit - that's how we should have been negotiating.


As ever Remainers want to be bullied and cowed into submission.

buglawton

Herzlos wrote: »

We're also at risk of satellite brain drain; the Galileo monitoring station we have is moving to Spain, and only EU firms can get contracts on the project, so we may start seeing specialists move into the EU unless we can get then to work on our system instead.

It's such a pointless waste. This is still something we lead the world at but are making ourselves irrelevang in unless we commit to spending billions on yet another duplicate system.

And it's not as if we can't use Galileo anyway; we can use it for location like we do with GPS, but from the outside we can't get access to the internals, control or (I think) the super high resolution stuff.

There's talk of a cooperative plan with UK, Australia and NZ for a new GPS system. With so many experts happily living with their families in the UK, who worked on Galileo, they'd be very well placed to lead the tech, using all their experience to make the next system better and more cost-effective

buglawton

Arklight wrote: »

We have to spend £92m to find out we don't have another £5.2bn to build our own GPS system?

Well that does sound like something the Tories would do.

Maybe they can find out we can't build a base on the moon either, at the same time.

Galileo, defence, our economy, free movement, research collaboration, British involvement in the ESA. It's so heart breaking what these complete cretins are doing.

Brexit is like watching a bunch of gibbering monkeys smashing the family china and not being able to do anything.

So it would only cost one eighth of our annual tithe to the EU to build an independent system? Bargain!

Lornapink

The latest Deltapoll survey shows no deal beating remain by 52% to 48%. Think of it: even after all the warnings of grounded planes, lorry queues and medicine shortages, no deal – not just leave – winning by four points.

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1068202384650919936

Lornapink

Remainers are very scared all of a sudden, look at today's Guardian - a no deal scenario is causing some to think it's time to back some form of Brexit & not risk trying to get a second referendum.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/30/brexit-gamble-second-vote-no-deal-risk

Theophile

Lornapink wrote: »

The latest Deltapoll survey shows no deal beating remain by 52% to 48%. Think of it: even after all the warnings of grounded planes, lorry queues and medicine shortages, no deal – not just leave – winning by four points.

https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1068202384650919936

More obfuscation. More lies. When will it ever stop.

This is a misrepresentation of the poll's findings, focusing on a subset of the transferable vote preference analysis. No Deal is comprehensively the least favoured option and there is a majority for May's Deal over No Deal and for the Deal over Remain