Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

ukcarper

BobQ wrote: »

An offer that our Government is too stupid to accept.

Do you really think we can just call the whole thing off.

Moby

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-dominic-raab-michel-barnier-theresa-may-press-conference-war-cry-a8465466.html

Dominic Raabs war cry, by comparison, involved stumbling over a pre-written begging letter, issued to his apparent enemy for more cooperation in the war he had just declared on him, then looking him directly in the eye and sheepishly declaring, Michel, we've got work to do.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/26/michel-barnier-tears-up-theresa-mays-brexit-customs-proposals

To avoid customs checks after Brexit, the government wants an unprecedented system where the UK would collect EU duties while having the freedom to set different tariffs on goods destined for the British market.

The plan would allow the UK to make its own free trade deals around the world, while not losing the frictionless trade from the rest of Europe.

But echoing the language of Theresa May on her goals for Brexit, Barnier responded: Maintaining control of our money, law and borders also applies to the EU customs policy. The EU cannot and will not delegate the application of its customs policy and rules, VAT and duty collection to a non-member who would not be subject to the EU governance structures.

We are clearly not going to split the 27 and the current Govmt chequers plan is not acceptable to Barnier. We know a no deal Brexit will cause huge problems. We are now facing the reality of our situation.........do we swallow our pride and stay in or forge ahead through sheer bloody mindedness.

vivatifosi

mayonnaise wrote: »

Morrisons, Tesco, Sainsbury's and Asda shoppers furious at EMPTY SHELVES

A sign of things to come?



https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/994539/Morrisons-Tesco-Sainsburys-asda-co-op-empty-shelves-twitter

The empty shelves have nothing to do with Brexit, they have to do with the shortage of CO2 to manufacture fizzy drinks, which has been exacerbated by increased demand due to the high temperatures.

While I am concerned about the potential impact of a no deal, I'm not going to concern myself about a shortage of water encased in single use plastic when, like everyone else in this country, I can just turn on the tap.

Herzlos

ukcarper wrote: »

Do you really think we can just call the whole thing off.

Absolutely. Would you rather we ran into food shortages just to keep up this illusion of "will of the people?"

Surely there's a point when the govermeñ can say"we tried, but it won't work, we're better off in the EU. Instead we'll use our time and powers to address the issues from inside the EU ".

Tromking

Herzlos wrote: »

Surely there's a point when the govermeñ can say"we tried, but it won't work, we're better off in the EU. Instead we'll use our time and powers to address the issues from inside the EU ".

Reluctantly I have to agree.
No deal will not get past our Parliament and I feel we’re being softened up for another vote, the remarks of the French foreign minister yesterday tells me that’s the case anyway.
Brexit 2019 is dying a slow death.

gfplux

vivatifosi wrote: »

Juncker Trump summit press conference now on TV. Looks like they are working towards an agreement.


"This was a very big day for free and fair trade" (Trump)

It looked to me as Trump had been outwitted for the third time after Kim Johg Un and Putin.

gfplux

Politico have the following on food stocks.

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Best Brexit story of the day: Comes via the FT, which has spoken to the supermarket industry about new Brexit Secretary Dominic Raabs apparent suggestion that the stockpiling of food in a no-deal scenario would be their responsibility. The responses are somewhat embarrassing. Stockpiling of food is not a practical response to a no-deal on Brexit, and industry has not been approached by government to begin planning for this, the British Retail Consortium says in a withering statement. ;Retailers do not have the facilities to house stockpiled goods, and in the case of fresh produce it is simply not possible to do so. Our food supply chains are extremely fragile.

Theres more: An unnamed supermarket exec goes further, explaining that fresh foods can only be stored for a few days, and there is no warehousing space for non-perishable goods: Its ridiculous, the exec says. Its scary because it shows how far the government is from the reality of how things work. Its genuinely worrying.
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gfplux

The following is from Bloombergs email.

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Brexcuses | The European Medicines Agencys bid to use Brexit to get out of a 500 million-pound ($660 million) rent bill has triggered a court fight that could have wide ramifications for the property market. The agency, which is moving to Amsterdam, wants to break its lease in the Canary Wharf, saying that it couldnt have anticipated the referendum result.
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cogito

gfplux wrote: »

The following is from Bloombergs email.

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Brexcuses | The European Medicines Agencys bid to use Brexit to get out of a 500 million-pound ($660 million) rent bill has triggered a court fight that could have wide ramifications for the property market. The agency, which is moving to Amsterdam, wants to break its lease in the Canary Wharf, saying that it couldnt have anticipated the referendum result.
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They are leaving voluntarily. No one is forcing them to go. But no doubt their buddies in the ECJ would back them up.

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

Absolutely. Would you rather we ran into food shortages just to keep up this illusion of "will of the people?"

Surely there's a point when the govermeñ can say"we tried, but it won't work, we're better off in the EU. Instead we'll use our time and powers to address the issues from inside the EU ".

As I've said before I voted remain so obviously I would prefer we didn't leave but if you think we could just call the whole thing off without major ramifications I fell you are gravely mistaken.

The thing that has disappoints me is the EU commissioners attitude and their idealistic position and disregard of ramifications of their attitude on member states. There could be a shortage of vegetables and fruit but how do you think that will effect the EU producers and they will be happy to see their produce rotting and their profits disappearing with it.