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Brexit the economy and house prices part 6
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I can't be bothered to look a context of all quotes but I have Farage one and it's totally out of contextHAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Here's some more...
"Absolutely nobody is talking about threatening our place in the Single Market"
~Daniel Hannan MEP, Leave campaigner
"Only a madman would actually leave the Market"
~Owen Paterson MP, Vote Leave backer
"Wouldn't it be terrible if we were really like Norway and Switzerland? Really? They're rich. They're happy. They're self-governing"
~Nigel Farage, Ukip leader
"Increasingly, the Norway option looks the best for the UK"
~Arron Banks, Leave.EU founder0 -
I can't be bothered to look a context of all quotes but I have Farage one and it's totally out of context
Why is the Farage one 'out of context'? That quote was made directly to the audience on Question Time. What was the correct context?'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
With the way Italy's budget barney with the EU is shaping up I don't care about what sort of Brexit deal (or no deal) we get because at this rate the EU will implode!Italy's budget crisis is a bigger threat to the EU than Brexit – you better start paying attention
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/italy-budget-crisis-brexit-eu-economics-public-services-giuseppe-conte-matteo-salvini-a8597466.htmlSooner or later, Italy will provoke another eurozone crisis. The flaws in the single currency are real, and have not gone away since the Greek and other crises a few years ago. It requires its members to deflate when they become uncompetitive; they cannot devalue their own currencies because they no longer exist. Deflation – cutting public services and wages – is always painful, governments fall into paroxysms as they try to cope with conflicting domestic and international obligations. The Italians are trying simple defiance. It won’t satisfy investors.
This isn't written by a Brexiter BTW, have a read. It's by an obviously-pained remainer who's acknowledging trouble ahead.
And no I'm not seriously suggesting the imminent collapse of the EU .... any more than some remainers are seriously suggesting the decline of the UK because of Brexit.
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What exactly did he say I can find plenty of posts where he is cut off before you hear complete quote I can find plenty before and after referendum where he is agains Norway plan and single market.Why is the Farage one 'out of context'? That quote was made directly to the audience on Question Time. What was the correct context?0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »A sensible, compromise, Brexit is therefore the EEA option.
I agree.
It would also make a sensible way of transitioning from the EU to join EFTA for 5 years, allowing the problems of Brexit to be properly ironed out. The Hard Leavers have an obsessive fear of this option because it might actually satisfy the majority of people.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
What puzzles me is how Turkey stays in EFTA with no FOM.
How does it keep this favoured status?
Gateway to the East, between the Western world and the Muslim. Geopoltitically important. Energy supplies from the Middle East. Could reduce dependence on Russia for gas. Trade export routes from the EU out. In itself a huge new market given it's population size..0 -
What puzzles me is how Turkey stays in EFTA with no FOM.
How does it keep this favoured status?
:wall:Thrugelmir wrote: »Gateway to the East, between the Western world and the Muslim. Geopoltitically important. Energy supplies from the Middle East. Could reduce dependence on Russia for gas. Trade export routes from the EU out. In itself a huge new market given it's population size..
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Turkey is not a member of EFTA...“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
I wonder how Turkey can have this deal that allows free trade without freedom of movementHAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »:wall:
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Turkey is not a member of EFTA...
http://www.efta.int/free-trade/Free-Trade-Agreement/Turkey0 -
I wonder how Turkey can have this deal that allows free trade without freedom of movement
http://www.efta.int/free-trade/Free-Trade-Agreement/Turkey
The same way any other country with a mere Free Trade Agreement does, the EU/EEA/EFTA have around 70 such agreements with third countries.
But of course they are all materially worse than being inside the Single Market which is why we already turned down the Free Trade Agreement offered to us by the EU.
I am frankly gobsmacked that anyone does not yet understand such fundamental issues....“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0
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