Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

cogito

Moby wrote: »

Holyhead, Fishguard and Cairnryan . Their communications chief was interviewed on R4 this morning

A bit late with your edit. You didn't edit your claim that the EU had FTAs with India and China though, did you?

Joan_number_1_2

Moby wrote: »

Further down the article states:- ................

Oh please!
Surely by now everybody knows that with every positive story where Brexit is even remotely involved there has to be a series of caveats, just to appease the pro-EU section of society.
It's only these "if"'s and "maybe"'s that keeps some remainers going, otherwise they'd have nothing.

LHW99

A no-deal Brexit could affect food supplies and see traders bypass Great Britain, the ferry firm Stena Line has warned.
There is "very little readiness" at ports and "anxiety is high", said Ian Hampton senior executive at the global ferry operator.
Stena is the largest ferry operator in the Irish sea and owns three UK ports.
The government said it had proposed an ambitious future relationship with the EU to keep trade flowing.
Mr Hampton said there was a possibility Stena Line would reduce services to and from the UK as a result of Brexit.'

When I heard the gentleman being interviewed this morning, his main point seemed to be that goods that were destined for the EU from Eire wouldn't come via the UK any more. So these are things not needed by the UK, but we are acting as a road system for those companies that export in this way to reduce their costs.

Herzlos

Joan_number_1 wrote: »

Oh please!
Surely by now everybody knows that with every positive story where Brexit is even remotely involved there has to be a series of caveats, just to appease the pro-EU section of society.
It's only these "if"'s and "maybe"'s that keeps some remainers going, otherwise they'd have nothing.

Of course the Brexiteers would never cherry-pick the good sounding sections or titles from articles and ignore the rest. :beer:

Moby

Former MI6 boss says Brexit makes UK more vulnerable to attacks like Russian novichok poisoning

Sir John Sawers, the former head of MI6, told the World at One that Brexit would make the UK more vulnerable to attacks like the Russian novichok poisoning in Salisbury. He is giving a speech today in which he will say that Russia would not have used a nerve agent on the streets of America or Germany. Asked to explain this on the World at One, Sawers said:

'They thought they could pick on Britain and bully us because we were looking weak. Actually I think Theresa May and her government responded very strongly and forcefully to the Skripal attack. But it was only because we were able to carry our European partners, the Americans and others, with us. It was through the engagement of others that we were able to push back and have a credible response to the Skripal attack.

When pressed on how Brexit was a factor, he went on:

I think what it is is it’s do with Britain looking weak, looking isolated. The Americans to some extent are walking away from their relationship with Europe, and we are walking away from the relationship with the European Union. The west is fragmented.'......


But so long as we're accurate about which ports the Stena Line runs we'll be ok!.....before anybody jumps on me....I added the last bit!

Joan_number_1_2

Herzlos wrote: »

Of course the Brexiteers would never cherry-pick the good sounding sections or titles from articles and ignore the rest. :beer:

Of course the remainers would never ignore the facts and figures and instead concentrate upon what-if's and maybe's.

Joan_number_1_2

Moby wrote: »

Former MI6 boss says Brexit makes UK more vulnerable to attacks like Russian novichok poisoning

You do realise that this attack occurred while we are an EU member, don't you?
So it looks like just another Brexit-hater (he wants a 2nd referendum too) trying to use fear.
It didn't work before the referendum in fact it had the opposite effect, so what on earth makes them think in will work now?

Herzlos

No comment about May being denied access to that EU27 dinner the other day?

Joan_number_1 wrote: »

Of course the remainers would never ignore the facts and figures and instead concentrate upon what-if's and maybe's.

Numbers now don't have any real bearing on the numbers in the future, that's what the predictions are, an attempt to figure out the future. And it's less what-ifs and more "If we don't have something in place for _____ then ____ will happen". The Leaver response to that is usually "it won't happen, because brexit" or "well Project Fear was wrong about ______ so this other thing must also be wrong".



We're still dangerously low on answers on both sides, but only one side seems to be asking the questions.

Herzlos

Joan_number_1 wrote: »

You do realise that this attack occurred while we are an EU member, don't you?

The attack happened after we triggered A50, surely? And after we threatened to shut off security co-operation with the EU whilst trying to avoid the divorce settlement?

We're still a member now, but that doesn't stop us looking weak now or in the future.

Joan_number_1_2

Herzlos wrote: »

Numbers now don't have any real bearing on the possible numbers in the future, that's what the predictions are, an attempt to figure out the future.
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We're still dangerously low on answers on both sides, but only one side seems to be asking the questions.

With respect I think you're trying to redefine what a prediction is.
Or maybe you set store by the likes of Mystic Meg & co., planning your life around their predictions?
Well I suppose that is no more crazy than paying serious heed to your beloved Brexit predictions of gloom and doom after all.

"One side" is not asking all the questions.
"One side" is running out of ideas for the next wacky doom-laden prediction.