Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

BobQ

Herzlos wrote: »

https://voxpoliticalonline.com/2018/10/15/is-theresa-mays-chequers-plan-a-red-herring-to-trick-the-eu-out-of-seeing-what-shes-really-doing/

It's from a left wing anti-brexit site, but it's about the only credible reason I can think of for May to keep doing with the chequers deal despite it being rejected multiple times.

This is asking us to believe in a level of competence from a Cabinet that has provided no evidence of it to date.

Its also asking us to believe that none of this would be leaked to journalists and that the Cabinet have total unity on it.

But one thing I can agree on is that whatever happens someone will make a lot of money out of it but not the man in the street, least of all most of the cannon-fodder those who voted Leave.

Conspiracy theories are rarely true. I prefer the co@k up theory. We are where we are because Chequers made sense to May, particularly compared with the alternatives, and too few have the nerve to tell her it will not work. She is a drowning woman with sharks to the left and the right, hoping for the EU to throw her a lifeline. When the time is right the knives will be out and in her back and either the public will go for Corbyn or one of the knifemen

ukcarper

BobQ wrote: »

This is asking us to believe in a level of competence from a Cabinet that has provided no evidence of it to date.

Its also asking us to believe that none of this would be leaked to journalists and that the Cabinet have total unity on it.

But one thing I can agree on is that whatever happens someone will make a lot of money out of it but not the man in the street, least of all most of the cannon-fodder those who voted Leave.

Conspiracy theories are rarely true. I prefer the co@k up theory. We are where we are because Chequers made sense to May, particularly compared with the alternatives, and too few have the nerve to tell her it will not work. She is a drowning woman with sharks to the left and the right, hoping for the EU to throw her a lifeline. When the time is right the knives will be out and in her back and either the public will go for Corbyn or one of the knifemen

As soon as leave won it was going to be very difficult if not impossible for PM and I can't see anybody who would do a better job.

I can't see enough people voting for Corbyn a general election far from making things better will make it worse.

baldelectrician

Brexit has very few (or NO up sides) in my opinion

The only saving grace is that as an independence supporter for Scottish indy the chaos seems to be pushing people more to Indy.

Crashy_Time

melanzana wrote: »

A drop in house prices is only good for one cohort.

Yep, cash buyers. Because if house prices go down, they also go down elsewhere for those selling with an existing mortgage. No win really.

And so the oligarchs and money rich buy up everything in sight again. Sigh. Rinse and repeat.

When was the last time they did that in your opinion?

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Moby wrote: »

Apparently AstraZeneca has suspended investments in Britain due to lack of clarity over Brexit, the pharmaceutical firm’s non-executive chairman Leif Johansson told France’s Le Monde newspaper.

Ford also confirming that both no deal and a Canada style deal are unacceptable.

.Ford’s European boss, Steven Armstrong, said: “For Ford, a hard Brexit is a red line. It could severely damage the UK’s competitiveness and result in a significant threat to much of the auto industry, including our own UK manufacturing operations.”

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/oct/15/ford-u-turn-carmaker-says-no-deal-brexit-could-force-it-to-leave-uk

buglawton

Why didn't the referendum voting form mention that we should all vote remain, because it's technically impossible to leave the EU?

antrobus

buglawton wrote: »

Why didn't the referendum voting form mention that we should all vote remain, because it's technically impossible to leave the EU?

Because the Electoral Commission would not have allowed it.:)

It might have helped if Remain had mentioned what a PITA Brexit would be, rather than all that Project Fear nonsense.

toomsie

cogito wrote: »

Yawn. Rising house prices are good for owners. Falling prices are good for buyers. Neither of which is anything to do with Brexit.

When sellers outnumber buyers the house prices go down. This could happen when baby boomers want to sell their property to improve their quality of living, or to help them with financial problems.

Housing is in a bubble when house prices vastly exceed the cost of building. We live in the Future, houses don't cost that much to make, get one from china. https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/prefab-house-kits-and-reassembled-prefabricated_1890783048.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normalList.136.647a48a1L2Kv2d

kabayiri

buglawton wrote: »

Why didn't the referendum voting form mention that we should all vote remain, because it's technically impossible to leave the EU?

Remain/Leave aside, I find this interesting.

If you were an EU federalist then once Brexit clears, the whole process could really play into your hands.

The argument that countries are effectively bound in to one another would be used to show others that leaving doesn't work.

If there some cancellation of Brexit (in whatever form), the future is likely to more integration with the EU. A quasi in/out stance won't really cut it for our EU partners.

Herzlos

buglawton wrote: »

Why didn't the referendum voting form mention that we should all vote remain, because it's technically impossible to leave the EU?

Because it's very easy to leave the EU.

It's impossible to leave the EU whilst enjoying all the benefits of the EU, though.