Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

buglawton

So Turkey got special treatment as the prospect if its accession fulfilled an EU expansionary ambition?

Turkey has zero chance getting any closer to joining, totally flouts EU human rights standards yet the EU has no intention of changing its trading status quo which just happens to suit EU manufacturers offshoring needs. Just shows how cherry picking, cake and eat it etc can be done when it suits the politics then.

Turkey will remain as a nice reminder that in reality, 'anything is possible'.

buglawton

Lungboy wrote: »

Turkey aren't inside the customs union. They are similar to what Corbyn kept asking for but being laughed at for suggesting, they have a customs union but aren't in the customs union.

"Turkey is in a customs union with the EU"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union%E2%80%93Turkey_Customs_Union

Lungboy

Yes, a customs union. Not the customs union.

http://ukandeu.ac.uk/explainers/eu-turkey-customs-union/

Lornapink

Now sit back and watch as polls show support for Labour in the north collapsing as working class people see Labour as the party of Remain establishment elites, a toxic combination of other worldly metropolitan Corbynista and profoundly arrogant 'liberals', neither of which can stand the working class.


This is a golden opportunity for the right.

Lornapink

So Corbyn wants to take 10% of shares away from shareholders. Most shares are owned by us all via our pensions and ISA's.


Any of you here that has spent years making sacrifice to pay into a pension or equity ISA will thus have 10% of your assets confiscated. Up with the revolution comrades.


Moneysaving?

Enterprise_1701C

Lornapink wrote: »

So Corbyn wants to take 10% of shares away from shareholders. Most shares are owned by us all via our pensions and ISA's.


Any of you here that has spent years making sacrifice to pay into a pension or equity ISA will thus have 10% of your assets confiscated. Up with the revolution comrades.


Moneysaving?

They've done it before, they scrapped tax relief on private pensions, thereby discouraging people from saving into their pensions. But of course, that is what they want, they want a country full of people dependant on the state so they will keep voting for them.

And of course, instead of allowing people to save for a better life for themselves and their dependants, what Labour seem to think is that if they have money to save they should be handing it to the government so they can give it to those that have never saved a penny in their lives and have instead spent every last penny they have earned. A bit like all those that don't bother with insurance and then lose everything and expect people to bail them out.

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

Can you give me example of what they could bend 'a bit' ? We're asking for huge concessions, but the details will depend on what bends.

Allow us to collect duty as in May's plan. I'll ask again what major problems will it cause for them if the give away a bit more.

Enterprise_1701C

ukcarper wrote: »

Allow us to collect duty as in May's plan. I'll ask again what major problems will it cause for them if the give away a bit more.

It will cause them the problem of actually agreeing to something. Of actually realising that we are leaving.

Joan_number_1_2

Thrugelmir wrote: »

What a load of waffle.

That pretty much sums up the majority of pro-EU posts in here from what I see.
Nothing of substance, just fear and derision.
It didn't work for the referendum and it ain't working now.

Herzlos

ukcarper wrote: »

Allow us to collect duty as in May's plan. I'll ask again what major problems will it cause for them if the give away a bit more.

What problem will letting a 3rd party that's not subject to EU laws collect duty money for the EU? That sounds pretty major, and trust issues aside it's a logistical nightmare and leaves far too much at risk of future deviation/abuse. Then presuambly this means the UK would also be responsible for the customs checks for anything where standards deviate in order to ensure that nothing makes it into the EU that's illegal there.



Would you let Cornwall leave the UK, not follow any UK laws but still collect duty on behalf of the UK?